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Petrus
post Jan 16 2008, 02:52 PM
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So I've recently been reading Summoning Spirits. It's an interesting book, but something that struck me is that the rituals in it are as Jewish as the proverbial Bar Mitzvah.

This begs a couple of questions.

1) How do people who adhere to non-Abrahamic religions perform evocations?
2) Are these rituals intended to imply that Judaism genuinely is "the truth," in a supreme or objective sense, to a greater degree than that of other religious systems?


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QUOTE(Petrus @ Jan 16 2008, 04:52 PM) *

So I've recently been reading Summoning Spirits. It's an interesting book, but something that struck me is that the rituals in it are as Jewish as the proverbial Bar Mitzvah.

This begs a couple of questions.

1) How do people who adhere to non-Abrahamic religions perform evocations?
2) Are these rituals intended to imply that Judaism genuinely is "the truth," in a supreme or objective sense, to a greater degree than that of other religious systems?

Judaism is Abrahamic... you're off on that one. The three abrahamic religions are the ones that hate each other the most; Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

Every religion designs everything to tell people that it is "the truth." If you're reading the Torah, it says Judaism is "the truth." Same thing for Christianity and everything else. The answer is yes, but that's not something to hold against the rituals because every religious ritual does it.


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Petrus   Evocation For Non-christians   Jan 16 2008, 02:52 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   So I've recently been reading Summoning Spirit...   Jan 16 2008, 06:12 PM
Mr. Curi   I suggest that you discover FIRST 'who' it...   Jan 16 2008, 06:59 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Mr. Curi, Having read Lisiewiski's book, Cerem...   Jan 16 2008, 09:33 PM
Mr. Curi   I have neither ignored nor misunderstood a single ...   Jan 17 2008, 04:15 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I think you have misunderstood what he meant by th...   Jan 17 2008, 11:34 PM
Mr. Curi   If Lisiewski's book does not cover an 'adv...   Jan 18 2008, 01:19 PM
Petrus   I suggest that you discover FIRST 'who' it...   Jan 19 2008, 06:39 PM
loki   If you don't have these already,you might want...   Jan 19 2008, 07:21 PM
Petrus   If you don't have these already,you might want...   Jan 19 2008, 10:10 PM
rif   So, I suggest looking into Hermetic Magick. Start ...   Apr 6 2008, 05:51 PM
Imperial Arts   It is always amusing to see how people react when ...   Jan 16 2008, 08:09 PM
altpath   Work with the grimoires as best as you can, as muc...   Jan 16 2008, 08:24 PM
altpath   Mr. Curi, I'm sure that everyone here would a...   Jan 17 2008, 05:22 PM
Mr. Curi   Yes, sorry I meant to edit that. I too like the v...   Jan 17 2008, 06:04 PM
Hideout   So I've recently been reading Summoning Spirit...   Jan 18 2008, 01:07 PM
bym   This is turning into a squabble. On one hand I hav...   Jan 18 2008, 09:24 PM
altpath   can we hear from those that have tried non-traditi...   Jan 18 2008, 09:49 PM
Hermetic Angel   From my experience I have found that although we c...   Apr 5 2008, 03:11 AM
altpath   Therefore i see no reason was a Pagan should have ...   Apr 5 2008, 11:19 AM
alkeides   The roots of much of Judaeo-Christian rituals were...   Nov 26 2009, 10:32 AM
Kath   nice post alkeides :) I practice evocation in a d...   Nov 27 2009, 11:17 AM
Praxis   I use my own system for summoning/banishing and ev...   Nov 11 2011, 09:12 PM

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