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Igisi
post Oct 26 2009, 12:10 PM
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is anyone here actively seeking longevity or any kind of psuedo-physical immortality? if anyone is, im curious as to what you may have found out about it or what is useful.

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post Dec 12 2009, 09:05 AM
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I heard fasting extends your life. Your body learns naturally how to conserve energy and your metabolism slows, which means your cells divide slower and you age slower.

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post Dec 13 2009, 12:56 AM
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It is a pity that life is so short. I do not agree with the too-popular sentiment that we ought to make way for new generations, or that we become over-burdened by unhappy memories. Plenty of fine enterprises and promising careers are cut short by injury and disease, but aside from these we are severely limited by aging. As the Psalm says, we gain nothing more by living to 80 years instead of 70 except sorrow and toil, but even this is too short.

The most promising anti-aging work being done in the medical industry is also focused on disease remedies, and that is the field of regenerative medicine, otherwise known as "tissue cloning." This technology exists, though it has been unfortunately overshadowed by the absurdity of whole organism cloning and the indefensible outcry against stem cell research. The same people who permit legal abortions also ban stem cell research... go figure. At any rate, the idea is that defective tissues are replaced using cloned healthy cells derived from the same organism, so that you could remain in tip-top condition indefinitely.

Nanotechnology has vastly increased the possibilities of tissue cloning, though again the research is stymied by overwhelming public misunderstanding. In these subjects there is solid research being conducted by the top minds in the field and in the best facilities possible. Why is it never given due publicity? I don't know, but the octogenarian PhD who declared "there is no longer any reason to die of old age" was murdered the very next day.

Those who like sane and rational answers can stop reading now.

My own investigations by occult means have nothing whatsoever to do with the scientific ideas above (which are probably a much better bet for longevity), but indicate that it is possible to form a symbiotic relationship with microorganisms and thereby extend life. These were not specifically identified, but it appears to be a species of diatom or crystalline algae (found in Wyoming and elsewhere) that becomes parasitic. These are supposed to exist in water and soil, form similar relationships with plants and tree roots, and may have some bearing on the concept of Ponce DeLeon's mythic fountain. Maybe someday I'll go to Wyoming and try to produce 20 year old hamsters.

I remember a story about a man in China who was documented to have lived 300 years, and attributed it to his herb garden. The Chinese government moved him from the area to have him assist in herbal concoctions, whereupon he died despite an identical diet of identical herbs. I suggest that his secret was not the herbs, but (unknown to him) these crystalline parasites in the water which he had given to those herbs.


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QUOTE(plainsight @ Dec 12 2009, 11:05 AM) *

I heard fasting extends your life. Your body learns naturally how to conserve energy and your metabolism slows, which means your cells divide slower and you age slower.

Science seems to disagree.

QUOTE(Imperial Arts @ Dec 13 2009, 02:56 AM) *

It is a pity that life is so short. I do not agree with the too-popular sentiment that we ought to make way for new generations, or that we become over-burdened by unhappy memories. Plenty of fine enterprises and promising careers are cut short by injury and disease, but aside from these we are severely limited by aging. As the Psalm says, we gain nothing more by living to 80 years instead of 70 except sorrow and toil, but even this is too short.

The most promising anti-aging work being done in the medical industry is also focused on disease remedies, and that is the field of regenerative medicine, otherwise known as "tissue cloning." This technology exists, though it has been unfortunately overshadowed by the absurdity of whole organism cloning and the indefensible outcry against stem cell research. The same people who permit legal abortions also ban stem cell research... go figure. At any rate, the idea is that defective tissues are replaced using cloned healthy cells derived from the same organism, so that you could remain in tip-top condition indefinitely.

Nanotechnology has vastly increased the possibilities of tissue cloning, though again the research is stymied by overwhelming public misunderstanding. In these subjects there is solid research being conducted by the top minds in the field and in the best facilities possible. Why is it never given due publicity? I don't know, but the octogenarian PhD who declared "there is no longer any reason to die of old age" was murdered the very next day.

Those who like sane and rational answers can stop reading now.

My own investigations by occult means have nothing whatsoever to do with the scientific ideas above (which are probably a much better bet for longevity), but indicate that it is possible to form a symbiotic relationship with microorganisms and thereby extend life. These were not specifically identified, but it appears to be a species of diatom or crystalline algae (found in Wyoming and elsewhere) that becomes parasitic. These are supposed to exist in water and soil, form similar relationships with plants and tree roots, and may have some bearing on the concept of Ponce DeLeon's mythic fountain. Maybe someday I'll go to Wyoming and try to produce 20 year old hamsters.

I remember a story about a man in China who was documented to have lived 300 years, and attributed it to his herb garden. The Chinese government moved him from the area to have him assist in herbal concoctions, whereupon he died despite an identical diet of identical herbs. I suggest that his secret was not the herbs, but (unknown to him) these crystalline parasites in the water which he had given to those herbs.



The comment about the researcher dieing doesn't surprise me in the least. But at the same time immortality could/ and almost definitely would have drastically negative consequences on this, already over populated, world. This is from a biological standpoint of course.


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