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post Apr 3 2010, 01:09 AM
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I just wanted to open up a discussion on this topic. It recently struck me that if we can create/destroy so easily on the astral plane then we should be able to do the same thing here, and with the same tools; your mind. I've been on a philosophy book binge lately and my elementary thought processes brought me to the conclusion that if life could simply be an illusion in our brains, if we view it as such then we can lucid dream in the real world. I put this in here because I wasn't sure what forum to put it in and I wanted to see if people thought it would be possible to make the world into a dream that you can alter at will. Opinions?


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post Apr 6 2010, 09:45 PM
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I've been on a philosophy book binge lately and my elementary thought processes brought me to the conclusion that if life could simply be an illusion in our brains, if we view it as such then we can lucid dream in the real world.


Nothing is true; everything is permissible. Reality is what you make of it. Some may think we are already in the after life. This may be heaven. Or it could be hell. One's man's heaven may be another's hell. We can try to deduce our reality by looking at its parts, its dimentions and physical laws. But does any of that have any real meaning? Can we even grasp the whole of our reality? What if instead of an illusion, existence is so real that we cannot even recognize it in its entirity?

I think everybody's personal reality is their own. It is what they make of it. Of course we're all human and as humans we are in a biological condition that affects how we percieve and create our realities. There is plenty of over lapping too, from one person's reality to the next. To some extent existence is universal, even though we can percieve things differently as individuals. We all live on the same Earth. We all participate in some type of social life. We all have senses that allow us to discern a tree from a house. But what would our realities be like if we had developed differently? Suppose we were all naturally blind as bats. That would mean that we may be hard of seeing, but our sense of hearing would be so accute we could almost see with out ears. Or what if we not only had bat like echo lacating abilities, everything we see was infered. What would our world look like then?

As far as manifesting objects in the real world the same way we can in dreams, I think the big difference is mechanisms we can use to accomplish such feats. Within dreams and the astral planes its only a matter of thought and emotions. But here in the regular world, action is needed. I cannot will a million dollars to myself in the real world. But I can in my dreams. What I can do in the real world is say rob a bank or invest in a profitable company or inherit the money from a relative. There are many ways to skin a cat (or get a million dollars). But in the real world I have yet to meet a person who can do that through sheer thought alone.

The more real reality gets, the more restrictive its physical laws become. If we look at the universe as though it were an onion we could see its layers as different realms or dimentions. In quantum theory the basic four dimentions are height, width, depth and time. In metaphysics we can see these four dimentions as the basis for reality, but not all that is reality. We can add other realms like the etherial planes, astral planes, levels of pure thought and energy as well. The further away you get from core basis of our reality the more fluid reality becomes and the easier it is to manifest objects (or anything really) through those planes. The real trick is find a way to trancend this ristrictive reality with all its natural laws and physics. If we can exist in a state of pure thought, we can literally create our own realities and exist as Gods of our own creation.

Even if that were possible could ever totally escape reality? Or are we just finding different ways to explore the same reality that already exists right in front of our faces?

Think of reality as a veil made up of our senses, perceptions, thoughts and emotions. If we could lift this veil of reality, not unlike curtains at a play, what would we see? Would we even be able to see what is beyond our own veil of reality? Or maybe what is actuallity, as apose to what we deem "real" is so bizzare and surreal that it would simply stupify any one who tried to percieve it and understand it.


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