Thelemic Godforms, identification with others Options

I have always associated the three God(dess)forms of Thelema, with other deities. And while all three are outward forces, there prime roles are that of the self, as "Every man and woman is a Star."

Hadit (Chaos) i've equated with various entities, as he represents the Slayer (Set/Shaitan) and the slain (Osiris/Jesus), he can be seen as Lucifer, the core of the Star, Shiva, the destroyer, as well as the creator, the Most Worshipful Grand Master Hiram Abiff. He is the hanging God, Odin, and the Trickster, Loki. He is also the Un-Holy Guardian Angel, called Aiwaz or Aivas by Crowley, that is the higher concioucness, the soul.

Nuit (Babalon)- Our Lady is seen as both the beautiful mother Isis, Diana, Demeter, Cybele, Magdalene, Eve, and Sophia, as well as the dark goddess, the warrior Ishtar/Ashtoreth, the Queen of Crossroads Hekate, the Mother of Succubi Lylyth, and the manslayer Kali. In either incarnation she is the giver of Gnosis, the holder of the Dark Chalice (Sangraal) containg the holy blood of Metzalion (Hadit)

Ra Hoor Khu/Harpocrates/Heru Ra Ha (Baphomet)- The Great Architect of the Universe (TGAOTU). Abraxas, the two (Nuit and Hadit) in one, joined in Divine Union (bridal chamber). While (s)he may bethe creative energy of the cosmos, the main function of Baphomet is that of the individuals creativ power as a God(dess), thus he is the idividual when the core of the Star (the soul) and Babalon-Nuit merge their energies together. Baphomet s the Divine Androgyne, HoruSet/NephthysIsis, YeshuaShaitan/MaryLylyth, SoLuna, and so muny more.

Is there anyone else who sees the pattern in this, or perhaps even follows this themselves?

For me, being just a beginner to Thelemic philosophy I've always felt there were paralells in between the different godforms of the different traditions. when I first heard of the concepts of Nuit and Hadit I thought it sounded alot like the concepts of Brahman and Atman found in the Upanishads. Babalon for me feels like Kali Or Chamundi, strong and feminine.

I'm not into thinking things over and over again too much, analysing the crap out of things never did it for me XD

It's just too hot here in Australia.

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Although I have no doubt that as I get deeper into Thelema, the veil will be rent and I will gain greater insight; but as it is now, I see that Crowley was simply well-educated on other spiritual systems, and developed a syncretic system that acknowledged the parallels between others. To me, this attempt at unification gives credence to underlying, original entities or energies that have been differently interpreted according to the worshiping culture.

However, you CAN go into pattern recognition overdrive.

Babalon for me feels like Kali Or Chamundi, strong and feminine.

Babalon is the Universal Divine Feminine, Binah, named after the mysterious woman riding the beast in revelation. The symbolism of the whore suggests one who accepts all, as one might expect of the ideal conceptual embodiment of feminine energy.

Hadit (Chaos) i've equated with various entities, as he represents the Slayer (Set/Shaitan) and the slain (Osiris/Jesus), he can be seen as Lucifer, the core of the Star, Shiva, the destroyer, as well as the creator, the Most Worshipful Grand Master Hiram Abiff. He is the hanging God, Odin, and the Trickster, Loki. He is also the Un-Holy Guardian Angel, called Aiwaz or Aivas by Crowley, that is the higher concioucness, the soul.

"I now incline to believe that Aiwass is not only the God or Demon or Devil once held holy in Sumer, and mine own Guradian Angel, but also a man as I am, insofar as He uses a human body to make His magical link with Mankind, whom He loves, and that He is thus an Ipsissimus, the Head of the A.'.A.'."
- Equinox of hte Gods

Tiphareth is the sephiroth most often conflated with Jesus, in my literary travels; I've seen it described as the "Christ center" in several books. Of course, since the Christian holy trinity places Jesus in the supernal triad, you get the impression that you can't harmonize every system perfectly, especially if they have arbitrarily changed a correspondence altogether. However, it does make sense to view Jesus - in his mythological role as the dying god - as a member of the supernal triad, and the duality this gives the Universal Divine Masculine does syncretize Judeo-Christian and Pagan interpretations.

By "the God or Demon or Devil once held holy in Sumer", I assume Crowley means the supreme God of Heaven, which would be Anu. Or, if we're talking about the God that created man, that would be Ea. Jumping from here to Gnosticism, Ea's correspondences connect to IAO, which is Ialdabaoth, the Demiurge / Abrasax / Set / Satan. Is this where you connect Hadit and Aiwass?

Also, how is Aiwass "unholy"? The message he delivered was the seed of the Holy Books of Thelema, not the UN-Holy Books of Thelema. If Satan is an actuating principle and part of the Supernal Triad, perhaps the term "unholy" is a bit inaccurate.

This "Devil" is called Satan or Shaitan, and regarded with horror by people who are ignorant of his formula, and, imagining themselves to be evil, accuse Nature herself of their own phantasmal crime. (Liber ABA)

This post has been edited by th0th: Apr 26 2010, 10:02 AM