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post May 13 2010, 08:25 PM
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ok, so whenever I meditate have have this feeling that i don't have to (shouldn't) breathe, why is this?

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post May 16 2010, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(kaboom13 @ May 16 2010, 12:09 AM) *

What do you advise people at that level of meditation do?

In short, that.

I have never heard it described that way before, but getting to the Source or the "one that begot the two" as I learned it, is what I am trying for. It is a good way of thinking about. Much easier than shutting down and opening meridian lines in the body, and moving energy to gates.

As to what that is useful for, not a lot other than gaining a profound understanding into the nature of all that exists. In around about way it provides power, though. Knowledge is power, and understanding is the battery that holds it. The more one understands the more power ones battery can hold.

It quite charming that every time I think I am bumbling off at something few people are into, I post at SMF and someone picks it up lake an old hat.


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This inner light appears to be outside and to illumine external objects.

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post May 16 2010, 05:59 PM
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Whoa hold on. I might clarify this really quickly~

The meditations I use are grounding meditations: zazen, walking meditations. I've been able to when I put my mind on it to maintain zazen while I continued my daily activities. Otherwise, it comes and goes whenever it likes.

I'm able to reach different forms of gnosis, allowing me to percieve different planes, obviously. One of the most intense ones i've ever experienced is best described by Wow's "emerald dream." Pretty much I have to be falling asleep when I enter gnosis and pretty much fall away and get torn to pieces by a vicious current of greenness. From there, I all conception of self, or rather I become all, and its pretty cool, you know, feeling the edges of existence.

The most commonly used state I access generally requires some foreign substances like baking chocolate (I can actually get intoxicated by by +80% dark chocolate), or a large amount of music. From there, I'm not actually anal retentive about energy and my ego sort of loosens its grasp upon everything, and from splashing water at the beach, tides shift.

The meditations that I want to achieve are being able to actually lose any concept of my body. Stuff you hear about from Diamond Vehicle monks only in whispers without the brutal existential breakdowns, you know only watered down a lot. Stuff hinduism talks about.

What I'm curious about is i've been multitasking with my spirit body and physical body performing different tasks that I don't disassociate from one to the other, rather I actively work through both. What I'm curious about isn't removing one or the other, but in a sense, more 'pointed' stuff.

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post May 17 2010, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(kaboom13 @ May 16 2010, 07:59 PM) *

What I'm curious about is i've been multitasking with my spirit body and physical body performing different tasks that I don't disassociate from one to the other, rather I actively work through both. What I'm curious about isn't removing one or the other, but in a sense, more 'pointed' stuff.


From my understanding, one does not normally disconnect one body from the other- short of death that is. Even when travailing in the astral, you still have a connection to you physical form. Old master are said to send out their spirit body while they go about whatever it is that they where doing, as if they are in two place at once. There is no disconnect, only two parts of the same thing.

Not sure what you mean by “'pointed' stuff” though.


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This inner light appears to be outside and to illumine external objects.

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