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NetHermit
post May 20 2010, 10:17 PM
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I would just like to hear some people beliefs. Do you follow a major religion a minor one? Do you follow your own beliefs based off of other major/minor religion? Do you have a unique set of beliefs that you follow and live your life by?

I was writing down my beliefs to see what I truly believed and felt. I wanted to see if I related to any major/minor religion in some sense. So I thought I ask if any others have done such a thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). I will list mine later when the list is complete.


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NetHermit
post May 20 2010, 11:34 PM
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I agree most people don't understand what they believe but I did not ask most people. I asked people that are in a place (magick forum) were I hope almost everyone is trying to understand there deep mind. So they should have experiences and feelings as to what is truly what they believe and not what they have been raised and told to believe. If not I do not think many people would be here since magick is said to be fake, false, unreal.




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post May 22 2010, 04:34 AM
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QUOTE(NetHermit @ May 21 2010, 01:34 AM) *

I agree most people don't understand what they believe but I did not ask most people. I asked people that are in a place (magick forum) were I hope almost everyone is trying to understand there deep mind. So they should have experiences and feelings as to what is truly what they believe and not what they have been raised and told to believe. If not I do not think many people would be here since magick is said to be fake, false, unreal.


True beliefs are experiential and not quantifiable, or not worth quantifying - I could tell you I believe in natural phenomenon, but then I would have to define my interpretation of those things, and even without those definitions you have a general idea of what I mean.

In the case of religious or spiritual beliefs, it's not some rote description of a higher power, its a collection of abstract experiences, perceptions, interpersonal observations, and some elements that defy labels.

I'm not suggesting that my beliefs are super special, but that no one here, or anywhere for that matter, can really and truly state their TRUE beliefs, not from a lack of awareness but a lack of language. The fact that you asked means that you are still confusing your false beliefs with your true beliefs.

True beliefs are indicated by actions, not words. That doesn't mean they can't be 'proven' by words - although that is also true - but that words don't describe them, actions do; action is the appropriate language to use to describe beliefs. That is, the beliefs that you are asking for here.

Rituals, labelling conventions, collections of esoteric lore, traditions, etc., none of these are true beliefs, they are learned behaviors. Belief in a God is a learned behavior, inherited and not original to one's true experience. I'm not suggesting no one believes in a higer power, just that without experience you can't truly believe in anything, you can only think that you do - most people have not experienced a higher power.

However, false beliefs are more isidious than just that - what we think we believe is more than just what we are raised and told to believe, it is what you have told yourself you want to believe based on judgements and assumptions, and these based on superficial experiences and the hypothesizing of experience. You can't express your true beliefs in words.

I apologize that my initial response was somewhat short, it was late and I was reconsidering the nature of beliefs after having covered this a long time ago, I'm not trying to bash you for asking about beliefs, just trying to offer a wider perspective on just what it is that you're actually asking, and what it suggests about your own interpretation of 'belief'.

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NetHermit   Beliefs   May 20 2010, 10:17 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Beliefs are best measured by their representation ...   May 20 2010, 10:49 PM
esoterica   beliefs are not just beliefs, they are anchors - a...   May 21 2010, 06:01 AM
NetHermit   This can be locked or deleted since in sense it is...   May 21 2010, 06:24 AM
esoterica   spammed? - talk about waste lololol jesus said to...   May 21 2010, 06:53 AM
NetHermit   You edited your post from what it was, it was simp...   May 21 2010, 06:56 AM
esoterica   mmm...i'm full - anyone else need a meal? ed...   May 21 2010, 07:07 AM
grim789   I was conserened with my beliefs as well for some ...   May 21 2010, 10:11 AM
Animal Shaman   I grew up Roman Catholic so I do have a belief in ...   May 22 2010, 01:20 AM
NetHermit   I understand and see your view point. I at this ti...   May 22 2010, 12:42 PM
esoterica   and when we do give an answer, it it doesn't l...   May 22 2010, 04:02 PM
NetHermit   I have nothing against you esoterica but you need ...   May 22 2010, 04:11 PM
esoterica   >>you need to learn to let go um, let go of...   May 22 2010, 06:13 PM
NetHermit   You other are blind and do not see that you reword...   May 22 2010, 11:41 PM
esoterica   my dear, you have not been flamed, just toyed with...   May 23 2010, 08:27 AM
NetHermit   Normal don't take people serious but some thin...   May 23 2010, 09:59 AM
esoterica   there were many critics of madam blavatsky, saying...   May 23 2010, 11:56 AM

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