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davisxmonster
post Mar 16 2009, 05:09 PM
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Magic: the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature

In it's definition magic has endless possibilities....

does it?

For some strange reason. when i am thinking up "Incantation" or "various other techniques" I have trouble thinking up what to do.

"what exactly is the problem i'm facing now? How do i solve it?" are questions i ask,

but magic doesn't seem to come up as an answer often.

and when it does, i use my trusty tarrot deck and i get BAD RESULTS
BAD BAD BAD RESULTS

so the magic i do always ends up being pure white magic since everything else seems it would go bad.

that's pretty limited if you ask me.

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Self-improvement - getting rid of negative energy. Meditating so I can understand myself and my place in Ma'at/Mayet/The Way of Things more fully.

Knowledge. Insight.

Divination. Because you never know what you'll see.

On the odd occasion I'll tangle with someone astrally to get them improve their behavior (yeah, I know this brushes the LHP, but I'm okay with that). I take, accept, claim and proclaim responsibility for my actions. I have no one to blame but myself if something goes south or otherwise backfires.


I am going to copy this down for my own response, if you don't mind.

Ever since I studied Taoism, my magickal works and studies have all been altered to evolve in a certain direction. A blessing is a blessing. A curse is a blessing that hurts, but only in the sense that sore muscles from lifting weights builds strength.

I find that now, I no longer curse others for sake of cursing or to see them suffer, but I feel that I am able to curse others without fear of any sort of implication of reciprocation because the magickal intent is based on helping the other. For instance,

A long while back, many years ago, my older brother was a hothead. We got into an argument, and he threatened physical violence. He went off on a drive, and in his absence, I cast a spell to teach him to "slow down" (being that he was moving too fast, and needed to calm down his temperament!). My father asked what that noise was upstairs after I was done. I said, "Doing a spell to teach him to slow down." Immediately, my father phoned my brother. My brother audibly scoffed. Soon after, he came home, with a speeding ticket. That point after he learned 1) Don't screw with magical people. 2) Slow down and improve your temperament. 3) STOP BREAKING THE LAW!!

From one perspective, the speeding ticket cost money, which hurt the family in a way, because we were going to use it to other means. True. But by that same token, my brother's temper was more of an expense risk to the family. By using a dark-magick/LHP mechanic, I just had to apply magick to a critical point, and the situation corrected itself thereafter.

TL;DR I never curse to curse. I curse for extra encumbrance for strength. I curse to improve the human condition. I curse to bring the best out of us.


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davisxmonster   What Do You Use Magic For?   Mar 16 2009, 05:09 PM
The Sorceress   Magick is a tool. It is only as good or as evil ...   Mar 16 2009, 05:18 PM
davisxmonster   i know that, i meant what practical purpose does i...   Mar 16 2009, 05:23 PM
Hermetic668   i meant what practical purpose does it serve in ...   Jul 25 2009, 08:50 AM
Djinn Shiva   I'm a diviner, wanting to become a medium. Fin...   Mar 16 2009, 06:02 PM
davisxmonster   in my case divinations tend to be wrong. they say...   Mar 16 2009, 07:10 PM
Djinn Shiva   I myself have never tried astral projection. But I...   Mar 16 2009, 07:47 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I use magic primarily for knowledge and answers to...   Mar 16 2009, 11:30 PM
esoterica   i use magic(primal) as a shield(active defence/ant...   Mar 17 2009, 11:57 AM
The Sorceress   What do I use magick for? Power, money (I manife...   Mar 17 2009, 08:10 PM
esoterica   that is experience, and experience comes with ti...   Mar 18 2009, 08:46 AM
davisxmonster   You make it sound like evocation is beginner's...   Mar 19 2009, 08:37 AM
Philalethes   The way we come upon the concept building will to ...   Mar 23 2009, 10:18 PM
Vilhjalmr   M-m-m-monsterbump! :whistling: What do I us...   Apr 17 2009, 01:46 PM
The Sorceress   Now how did you do this? I haven't heard of i...   Apr 17 2009, 06:56 PM
Vilhjalmr   I guess that's fairly magical... :D   Apr 17 2009, 07:00 PM
The Sorceress   I guess that's fairly magical... :D Yeah, ...   Apr 17 2009, 08:28 PM
Lucifer   sounds like the magickal equivalent of writer...   Jul 30 2009, 06:29 AM
Kath   I view things pretty similarly to esoterica in thi...   Oct 11 2009, 07:33 AM
Alt 14   I don't really see how magic wouldn't work...   Oct 11 2009, 10:58 AM
xXDaemonReignXx   for entertainment. self improvement. hobby that in...   Oct 11 2009, 11:55 AM
Goibniu   I consider energy work and magic to be roughly the...   Oct 11 2009, 07:31 PM
HP.Bryce   I use my abilities and training to improve the com...   May 28 2010, 01:45 AM
kaboom13   It has honestly integrated into my life to the poi...   May 28 2010, 07:21 AM
ellmaring   The more I seem to learn about and practice magic,...   May 28 2010, 02:45 PM
kaboom13   Xenomancer~ I agree with the ontological basis of...   May 28 2010, 05:30 PM
Animal Shaman   I use magic primarily for two reason. Once is guid...   May 29 2010, 12:29 AM
Xenomancer   My sentiments exactly! What's beyond o...   May 30 2010, 09:35 AM
kaboom13   What I'm really interested in is that in your...   May 30 2010, 11:09 AM
Xenomancer   Yes. We all are. We cannot grasp it because we ...   May 31 2010, 01:41 PM
Kath   (and the many sentences which were saying basical...   May 31 2010, 03:27 PM
kaboom13   Hey Xeno and Kath~ In response to the general use...   May 31 2010, 07:38 PM
Xenomancer   YES!! THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SA...   May 31 2010, 07:51 PM
Kath   ahhh, i would differ on what 'nihilism' is...   May 31 2010, 08:03 PM
kaboom13   Fast reactions, Kath! To answer your question...   May 31 2010, 08:12 PM
Kath   You'd make a great bodhisattva :) we perceive ...   Jun 1 2010, 02:45 AM
Ethereal Sight   Magic: the art of producing a desired effect or...   Jun 1 2010, 02:14 PM
daisyrocket   Self-improvement/awareness/empowerment/control. Th...   Jun 5 2010, 12:27 PM
Vilhjalmr   I don't really see how magic wouldn't wor...   Jun 16 2010, 02:39 AM
NetherSpirit   I use magic for several things really - guidance, ...   Jun 18 2010, 08:20 AM
Shinichi   My primary use for magic is spiritual evolution, b...   Jun 19 2010, 09:59 PM
NetherSpirit   In hermetics, The Major Arcana of the Tarot actua...   Jun 20 2010, 11:04 AM
Barnard   I have no interest in using magic for my own needs...   Jul 1 2010, 03:53 PM
☞Tomber☜   Edit   Aug 17 2010, 06:31 PM
kaboom13   World peace can mean for the world to shut up an...   Aug 17 2010, 07:44 PM
Barnard   Your doubts are expected. Most people are focused ...   Aug 17 2010, 11:40 PM
☞Tomber☜   ^alright, that's cool man "Could you ela...   Aug 18 2010, 09:46 AM
Barnard   I am not familiar with the terminology of under fe...   Aug 18 2010, 12:27 PM
☞Tomber☜   [font=Courier New]I am not familiar with the term...   Aug 18 2010, 03:30 PM

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