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davisxmonster
post Mar 16 2009, 05:09 PM
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Magic: the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature

In it's definition magic has endless possibilities....

does it?

For some strange reason. when i am thinking up "Incantation" or "various other techniques" I have trouble thinking up what to do.

"what exactly is the problem i'm facing now? How do i solve it?" are questions i ask,

but magic doesn't seem to come up as an answer often.

and when it does, i use my trusty tarrot deck and i get BAD RESULTS
BAD BAD BAD RESULTS

so the magic i do always ends up being pure white magic since everything else seems it would go bad.

that's pretty limited if you ask me.

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post May 30 2010, 11:09 AM
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What's beyond our understanding? I re-read my post, and I don't quite understand what the context of your question is. Please elaborate.

What I'm really interested in is that in your former post, you worded yourself in a way that seemed to connote that as an individual, you (or an individual, really) is capable of bettering the condition. Given that we are experiencing this condition on a subjective level, how can an individual genuinely perceive what can better the human condition if we ourselves are incapable of truly and wholly grasping the full nature of the human condition? What makes your perspective of the human condition rightfully better than another in such a way that you can act out, and perhaps even override the idea of another's idea of improvement?

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Who said it's an element of past, present, and future? My paradigm works from the reverse. Rather than human condition being an element of past, present, and future, I work from the paradigm that past, present, and future are elements of the Human Condition!! Humans exist in time, yes, but we are more than just our past, present and future. The whole idea of (what I learned about Taoism) is that one does not fret about the parts, one is able to handle the whole, while understanding that the details have their parts to play in a synergistic fashion.


I concede and agree with your point, but talking about the non-linear nature of time belongs in a completely different thread. That aside, the point of that sentence is that who are we as individuals to claim to understand any of it? To us, our subjective present is all that exists, and past and future are fluid aspects of that, but moreover that makes us even more of a disadvantageous position to act. By only being able to see through the personal lens, then as individuals we are incapable of seeing what's best called the 'objective world' in any real way to make utilitarian (since we are trying to better the world) decisions.

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I am not claiming that the rug is purple. I am claiming that we are all thread.

But, who are you to say that you are capable of understanding the rest of this alleged tapestry? And in such a way, who is an individual to have the audacity to claim anything we know nothing about?

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davisxmonster   What Do You Use Magic For?   Mar 16 2009, 05:09 PM
The Sorceress   Magick is a tool. It is only as good or as evil ...   Mar 16 2009, 05:18 PM
davisxmonster   i know that, i meant what practical purpose does i...   Mar 16 2009, 05:23 PM
Hermetic668   i meant what practical purpose does it serve in ...   Jul 25 2009, 08:50 AM
Djinn Shiva   I'm a diviner, wanting to become a medium. Fin...   Mar 16 2009, 06:02 PM
davisxmonster   in my case divinations tend to be wrong. they say...   Mar 16 2009, 07:10 PM
Djinn Shiva   I myself have never tried astral projection. But I...   Mar 16 2009, 07:47 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I use magic primarily for knowledge and answers to...   Mar 16 2009, 11:30 PM
esoterica   i use magic(primal) as a shield(active defence/ant...   Mar 17 2009, 11:57 AM
The Sorceress   What do I use magick for? Power, money (I manife...   Mar 17 2009, 08:10 PM
esoterica   that is experience, and experience comes with ti...   Mar 18 2009, 08:46 AM
davisxmonster   You make it sound like evocation is beginner's...   Mar 19 2009, 08:37 AM
Philalethes   The way we come upon the concept building will to ...   Mar 23 2009, 10:18 PM
Vilhjalmr   M-m-m-monsterbump! :whistling: What do I us...   Apr 17 2009, 01:46 PM
The Sorceress   Now how did you do this? I haven't heard of i...   Apr 17 2009, 06:56 PM
Vilhjalmr   I guess that's fairly magical... :D   Apr 17 2009, 07:00 PM
The Sorceress   I guess that's fairly magical... :D Yeah, ...   Apr 17 2009, 08:28 PM
Lucifer   sounds like the magickal equivalent of writer...   Jul 30 2009, 06:29 AM
Kath   I view things pretty similarly to esoterica in thi...   Oct 11 2009, 07:33 AM
Alt 14   I don't really see how magic wouldn't work...   Oct 11 2009, 10:58 AM
xXDaemonReignXx   for entertainment. self improvement. hobby that in...   Oct 11 2009, 11:55 AM
Goibniu   I consider energy work and magic to be roughly the...   Oct 11 2009, 07:31 PM
HP.Bryce   I use my abilities and training to improve the com...   May 28 2010, 01:45 AM
kaboom13   It has honestly integrated into my life to the poi...   May 28 2010, 07:21 AM
Xenomancer   I am going to copy this down for my own response...   May 28 2010, 09:25 AM
ellmaring   The more I seem to learn about and practice magic,...   May 28 2010, 02:45 PM
kaboom13   Xenomancer~ I agree with the ontological basis of...   May 28 2010, 05:30 PM
Animal Shaman   I use magic primarily for two reason. Once is guid...   May 29 2010, 12:29 AM
Xenomancer   My sentiments exactly! What's beyond o...   May 30 2010, 09:35 AM
kaboom13   What I'm really interested in is that in your...   May 30 2010, 11:09 AM
Xenomancer   Yes. We all are. We cannot grasp it because we ...   May 31 2010, 01:41 PM
Kath   (and the many sentences which were saying basical...   May 31 2010, 03:27 PM
kaboom13   Hey Xeno and Kath~ In response to the general use...   May 31 2010, 07:38 PM
Xenomancer   YES!! THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SA...   May 31 2010, 07:51 PM
Kath   ahhh, i would differ on what 'nihilism' is...   May 31 2010, 08:03 PM
kaboom13   Fast reactions, Kath! To answer your question...   May 31 2010, 08:12 PM
Kath   You'd make a great bodhisattva :) we perceive ...   Jun 1 2010, 02:45 AM
Ethereal Sight   Magic: the art of producing a desired effect or...   Jun 1 2010, 02:14 PM
daisyrocket   Self-improvement/awareness/empowerment/control. Th...   Jun 5 2010, 12:27 PM
Vilhjalmr   I don't really see how magic wouldn't wor...   Jun 16 2010, 02:39 AM
NetherSpirit   I use magic for several things really - guidance, ...   Jun 18 2010, 08:20 AM
Shinichi   My primary use for magic is spiritual evolution, b...   Jun 19 2010, 09:59 PM
NetherSpirit   In hermetics, The Major Arcana of the Tarot actua...   Jun 20 2010, 11:04 AM
Barnard   I have no interest in using magic for my own needs...   Jul 1 2010, 03:53 PM
☞Tomber☜   Edit   Aug 17 2010, 06:31 PM
kaboom13   World peace can mean for the world to shut up an...   Aug 17 2010, 07:44 PM
Barnard   Your doubts are expected. Most people are focused ...   Aug 17 2010, 11:40 PM
☞Tomber☜   ^alright, that's cool man "Could you ela...   Aug 18 2010, 09:46 AM
Barnard   I am not familiar with the terminology of under fe...   Aug 18 2010, 12:27 PM
☞Tomber☜   [font=Courier New]I am not familiar with the term...   Aug 18 2010, 03:30 PM

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