What Do You Use Magic For? Options

Magic: the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature

In it's definition magic has endless possibilities....

does it?

For some strange reason. when i am thinking up "Incantation" or "various other techniques" I have trouble thinking up what to do.

"what exactly is the problem i'm facing now? How do i solve it?" are questions i ask,

but magic doesn't seem to come up as an answer often.

and when it does, i use my trusty tarrot deck and i get BAD RESULTS
BAD BAD BAD RESULTS

so the magic i do always ends up being pure white magic since everything else seems it would go bad.

that's pretty limited if you ask me.

I believe that without necessarily our validation, we're unanimously working towards something. That something is beyond my own comprehension, but what I do know is that compared to the infinite tide of we/us, the only way to really understand the nature of the infinite requires us/we to be infinite.

YES!! THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY ALL ALONG!! @_@

Are we playing with semantics? It sounds like it if our definitions are actually the same (which they may be.)

Why am I not surprised? But what's even more curiouser, we came to the same conclusion from completely opposing starting points. Fancy that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This was in response to me asking about bettering the human condition. Is bettering the human condition by aiding others understand it? Is that all that is required, or does that implicitly acknowledge that individuals will change their paradigms and everything else once they draw closer to it?

It implies that by helping others to understand it, I would improve it, and they would improve it. That it is a function of learning. I help others to be able to learn it by pointing out what will help them learn more about the universe they never knew before. By doing so, I improve it for them, because they are then able to improve it for themselves, and in turn, the work they do would reflect in their everyday actions. Collectively, overtime, the results should come back to me to make my world a better place.

m under the impression that the machine has designs beyond our understanding. As individuals we can improve our own paradigm and make ourselves happy in the process. We aren't going to be ideologically damned or something~ its just I think we have no clue what's going on, and we might as well admit it and learn to just carry on with our lives as well as we can. (Reference to earlier stuff)

And I'm from the position that when we learn more about the machine, the more we can manipulate it for sake of our happiness. Hence, "Causing change in conformity with the will."

This viewpoint resonates all over your post, so consider it me generally addressing the concept of self and such, and I'll sound redundant, but I promise you there is a point here I'm trying to make. My natural urge is to say that an individual cannot completely understand oneself as one cannot completely understand the universe. We can feel its flow and ebb, but to say that we truly know every spot and corner, from I know is inherently impossible (even from I think? modern psychology)

Of course not. We are growing. The universe is growing. We learn, the universe expands. We have a duty to not lag behind. The only time when a human does not learn is when they are dead. The only time motion does not resume is when there is a stop. Hence, this is why we must explore ourselves in limited context of our mortality, address the same in others, and then extol the immortality we have via our progeny (children). The passing on of knowledge ensures that we, as a species, as an entire collective entity, never stop learning about what it means to be human. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


This post has been edited by Xenomancer: May 31 2010, 08:04 PM