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davisxmonster
post Mar 16 2009, 05:09 PM
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Magic: the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature

In it's definition magic has endless possibilities....

does it?

For some strange reason. when i am thinking up "Incantation" or "various other techniques" I have trouble thinking up what to do.

"what exactly is the problem i'm facing now? How do i solve it?" are questions i ask,

but magic doesn't seem to come up as an answer often.

and when it does, i use my trusty tarrot deck and i get BAD RESULTS
BAD BAD BAD RESULTS

so the magic i do always ends up being pure white magic since everything else seems it would go bad.

that's pretty limited if you ask me.

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post Jun 1 2010, 02:45 AM
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You'd make a great bodhisattva (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
we perceive the same problem of "infinity being infinitely depersonalizing".

The entire focus of my path right now is on examining the possibility of engineering a sort of paradoxical existence, both finite and "not finite" at the same time. to sort of become a finite, persona-containing, face of the infinite, whole with the infinite, yet also individual. A sort of truncated model, like a cone with an ending point at the tip, and no end to it on the other side. I am led to believe that this is an even more difficult task than just merging with the infinite. While some might consider it an incomplete attainment, I feel the result is (from a certain perspective) actually "more vast" than just touching aum and going to nirvana. Since infinity in and of itself actually does fail to encompass one thing, 'finite-ness'.

But I wonder at just how such a blended state would play out, and whether one would (in full knowledge of the 'grand clockwork' and the meaninglessness of meaning) actually ever want to act upon it. I think that touches on the paradoxical aspect of my notion.
I'm afraid I have yet to really work it out.
It is my feeling that to do so will require shifting the throne of one's self anchor to the "higher self" rather than the physical self, or essentially merge with one's HGA, as I agree that it looks like it may well be beyond the capacity of a limited human brain/body to resolve this paradox.

no telling for certain what will make this notion workable though, without actually doing it.
as for the possibility of it, I feel that my patron would not spend the past decade helping and instructing unless it was possible.

that's what I would do by the way... like in your 'dying breath' act, to make the world a better place. my bodhisattva-like 'good will' would be to in turn instruct anyone who is capable, ready, and desirous, to help them realize the same spiritual growth. (i'm really more tantrik than buddhist though)

actually, from an infinite perspective, depending on how you look at time, perhaps I already am doing that, if i, in the future, succeeded. and maybe that's exactly what the higher self/hga is...

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davisxmonster   What Do You Use Magic For?   Mar 16 2009, 05:09 PM
The Sorceress   Magick is a tool. It is only as good or as evil ...   Mar 16 2009, 05:18 PM
davisxmonster   i know that, i meant what practical purpose does i...   Mar 16 2009, 05:23 PM
Hermetic668   i meant what practical purpose does it serve in ...   Jul 25 2009, 08:50 AM
Djinn Shiva   I'm a diviner, wanting to become a medium. Fin...   Mar 16 2009, 06:02 PM
davisxmonster   in my case divinations tend to be wrong. they say...   Mar 16 2009, 07:10 PM
Djinn Shiva   I myself have never tried astral projection. But I...   Mar 16 2009, 07:47 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I use magic primarily for knowledge and answers to...   Mar 16 2009, 11:30 PM
esoterica   i use magic(primal) as a shield(active defence/ant...   Mar 17 2009, 11:57 AM
The Sorceress   What do I use magick for? Power, money (I manife...   Mar 17 2009, 08:10 PM
esoterica   that is experience, and experience comes with ti...   Mar 18 2009, 08:46 AM
davisxmonster   You make it sound like evocation is beginner's...   Mar 19 2009, 08:37 AM
Philalethes   The way we come upon the concept building will to ...   Mar 23 2009, 10:18 PM
Vilhjalmr   M-m-m-monsterbump! :whistling: What do I us...   Apr 17 2009, 01:46 PM
The Sorceress   Now how did you do this? I haven't heard of i...   Apr 17 2009, 06:56 PM
Vilhjalmr   I guess that's fairly magical... :D   Apr 17 2009, 07:00 PM
The Sorceress   I guess that's fairly magical... :D Yeah, ...   Apr 17 2009, 08:28 PM
Lucifer   sounds like the magickal equivalent of writer...   Jul 30 2009, 06:29 AM
Kath   I view things pretty similarly to esoterica in thi...   Oct 11 2009, 07:33 AM
Alt 14   I don't really see how magic wouldn't work...   Oct 11 2009, 10:58 AM
xXDaemonReignXx   for entertainment. self improvement. hobby that in...   Oct 11 2009, 11:55 AM
Goibniu   I consider energy work and magic to be roughly the...   Oct 11 2009, 07:31 PM
HP.Bryce   I use my abilities and training to improve the com...   May 28 2010, 01:45 AM
kaboom13   It has honestly integrated into my life to the poi...   May 28 2010, 07:21 AM
Xenomancer   I am going to copy this down for my own response...   May 28 2010, 09:25 AM
ellmaring   The more I seem to learn about and practice magic,...   May 28 2010, 02:45 PM
kaboom13   Xenomancer~ I agree with the ontological basis of...   May 28 2010, 05:30 PM
Animal Shaman   I use magic primarily for two reason. Once is guid...   May 29 2010, 12:29 AM
Xenomancer   My sentiments exactly! What's beyond o...   May 30 2010, 09:35 AM
kaboom13   What I'm really interested in is that in your...   May 30 2010, 11:09 AM
Xenomancer   Yes. We all are. We cannot grasp it because we ...   May 31 2010, 01:41 PM
Kath   (and the many sentences which were saying basical...   May 31 2010, 03:27 PM
kaboom13   Hey Xeno and Kath~ In response to the general use...   May 31 2010, 07:38 PM
Xenomancer   YES!! THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SA...   May 31 2010, 07:51 PM
Kath   ahhh, i would differ on what 'nihilism' is...   May 31 2010, 08:03 PM
kaboom13   Fast reactions, Kath! To answer your question...   May 31 2010, 08:12 PM
Ethereal Sight   Magic: the art of producing a desired effect or...   Jun 1 2010, 02:14 PM
daisyrocket   Self-improvement/awareness/empowerment/control. Th...   Jun 5 2010, 12:27 PM
Vilhjalmr   I don't really see how magic wouldn't wor...   Jun 16 2010, 02:39 AM
NetherSpirit   I use magic for several things really - guidance, ...   Jun 18 2010, 08:20 AM
Shinichi   My primary use for magic is spiritual evolution, b...   Jun 19 2010, 09:59 PM
NetherSpirit   In hermetics, The Major Arcana of the Tarot actua...   Jun 20 2010, 11:04 AM
Barnard   I have no interest in using magic for my own needs...   Jul 1 2010, 03:53 PM
☞Tomber☜   Edit   Aug 17 2010, 06:31 PM
kaboom13   World peace can mean for the world to shut up an...   Aug 17 2010, 07:44 PM
Barnard   Your doubts are expected. Most people are focused ...   Aug 17 2010, 11:40 PM
☞Tomber☜   ^alright, that's cool man "Could you ela...   Aug 18 2010, 09:46 AM
Barnard   I am not familiar with the terminology of under fe...   Aug 18 2010, 12:27 PM
☞Tomber☜   [font=Courier New]I am not familiar with the term...   Aug 18 2010, 03:30 PM

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