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post Feb 12 2010, 02:45 PM
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Okey, dont get me wrong but i've been thinking about this whole magick thing, first of all im not sayin if its possible i want to do it cause its fun, more like is those things really possible in our life? I mean if you go searching some about the subject you find tons so i guess there must be something true about it somewhere in the ages but i don't really know, my question is, is it really possible to do things physically with magick or is it just to find your inner self and believe in stuff(Like luck spells etc.) and that sort or is it really possible to do something you feel or see or even can touch without imagine it? guess i will make some people pissed with a question like this but i would like to know. Thanks anyway.

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Okay, now on the original poster's question.

1.) There's nothing wrong about wanting to do it because it's fun. That's one of the best reasons, in my opinion.

2.) I have spent a long time looking for magical systems that promise actual, physical, tangible, undeniable results. Petrus might be right when he posits that magic only operates in a more subtle way, but many people think otherwise. Here's a quick rundown of the people I know who claim physical effect from magic.

a.) Imperial Arts, a member of this forum, says (in a nutshell) that if you faithfully follow every instruction given in the Ars Goetia (a medieval grimoire), from obtaining a lionskin to casting the sigils of the demons in the appropriate metal. This is a lot of work, but Imperial Arts has gone to great lengths to carefully chronicle nearly every aspect of his practice, so if you want a comprehensive program to follow and don't mind putting in a lot of time and money, this might be a good choice. Ultimately, it will probably be the one I chose.

b.) Franz Bardon (and Prophecy): Bardon wrote an excellent work called Initiation Into Hermetics, which is basically a step-by-step guide to obtaining powers as varied as summoning elementals to controlling a candle flame with your mind. Prophecy is a member of the Veritas Society forums, and he's written a less lengthy companion guide based on Initiation Into Hermetics. Both of these works promise tangible results. I am wavering myself between following Initiation Into Hermetics or trying Goetic magic.

c.) Kobok's Dynamic Psi: another member of Veritas, Kobok is adamant about rigorously controlled experimental psionics. He claims you can learn, through practice, to do things like move quarters, pencils, and even larger objects with your mind. He has written several guides to this effect.

d.) PsiPog: PsiPog is a site/community dedicated to psionics. They promise some pretty incredible things from psionic practice, but I personally have never managed anything from their guides, and others have told me they similarly failed. Combined with the grandiose claims they make, I'm not so sure about PsiPog, but it does have lots of information to check out, so it's worth a look.

e.) Tomekeeper's Library of Knowledge: Tomekeeper has classified different magical practices and written brief guides on each one. He too makes some extraordinary claims about the power to be found in magic. I found his work very interesting, but unsatisfyingly vague. In addition, I posted on his forums long ago and asked if any of the members had achieved the incredible feats promised, and they all basically said "nope." But again, there's a lot of stuff there, so stop by and take a look.

If you would like any of the works mentioned here or links to any site, just let me know.


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