Natural Magick As Opposed To Cm, What is natural magick opposed to CM? Options

Hello, SM. In my study of CM, I've come across the term 'natural' magick as a different form of magick. I've read an opinion from Cornelius Agrippa where he denounces ceremonial magick as an, "impious disobedience to God." I simply couldn't leave this single little opinion alone since I try my very best to abide by the laws of God I feel are obvious and that I felt were genuine.

What I'd like to know is, what exactly is natural magick as opposed to ceremonial magick?

Is there anything within CM that holds some truth to Cornelius' opinion of it being sinful in any way compared to natural magick?

Thank you.

I respectfully disagree with your first assertion; I'm most familiar with the shamanism around Kamchatka, but it didn't seem anything like Christian ritual to me, and I think it'd be a mistake to over-emphasize whatever residual similarity Christianity may have had with shamanism. The defining features seem to be things like animal guides, nature worship, elaborate (but very different even between shamanistic regions) cosmology, and entheogen use.

This post has been edited by Vilhjalmr: Jul 7 2010, 12:17 PM

I respectfully disagree with your first assertion; I'm most familiar with the shamanism around Kamchatka, but it didn't seem anything like Christian ritual to me, and I think it'd be a mistake to over-emphasize whatever residual similarity Christianity may have had with shamanism. The defining features seem to be things like animal guides, nature worship, elaborate (but very different even between shamanistic regions) cosmology, and entheogen use.

When I was a devout christian myself, I found that they engage in a great deal of subtle group-based energy work, egregore work, ancestor worship, etc. They just use different terminology for it all. These aspects go back the the earliest christian church. Just because they choose to use different terminology, and then promote their own practices while condemning anyone using terminology outside their sect (ie religious xenophobia), doesn't mean they actually *are* doing something different.