Calling Archangels Inquiry, Calling the Archangels Simultaneously Options

Hello, SM. I have been researching the LBRP and I have come across a question which I would very much like a direct answer to. The question; if a person is performing the LBRP somewhere in the world, and another performs it someplace else as well, how will calling the archangels properly work? I've not concluded my study of the LBRP, therefore I do not fully understand what transpires when the archangels are called. Do they quite literally show up? Or do their presences or essences simply show up? These questions lead me to my true question: Two people simultaneously performing the LBRP someplace on Earth, how does calling the archangels work properly? Or is it that the essence of the archangels are present and they are not truly present? that would make more sense to me.

I would appreciate anyone's opinions, but if someone knows for a fact how calling the archangels works, I'd appreciate your explanations greatly.

Thank you.

um, what is your source for the cm you are working? - are you working from a book or do you have a actual teacher/group you are working with?

if you are working with a group, i'd ask them as these are the sorts of basic questions teachers always get

i am not a ceremonial magician, but i can probably touch on some of them - i'd love to know if i'm right on these or not - i've read regardie, etc, but i'm a witch at heart lol

>>[1] Why is the LBRP done in a dark room? Can it not be done in daylight?

in the dark your mind is more open to the thinks that cannot be seen?

>>[2] Why is it that we have to walk clockwise? What does it mean in magickal terms?

clockwise is the apparent motion of the sun - sunwise, right hand path, generation versus dissolution

>>[3] What is the significance of lighting candles? Is there a specific way the candles are supposed to be placed?

candle magic - the ritual should outline the candle placement - doesn't it?

[4] What is the purpose of calling the archangels? I've read they could be substituted, but it's not my desire to do that, I simply want to know why they are called and what functions they perform.

the archangels are probably like calling the quarters in witchcraft - they say that the alexandrian tradition, which uses quarters, influenced gerald gardner when he went to england and met some of the alexandrians and worked some rituals with them and they gave him access to their book of shadows - i don't call the quarters, but from what my old teacher told me years ago, the quarters, watchtowers, whatever, are the four beast-headed angels surrounding the throne of god (which would make them archangels, ya?)- they are the embodiment of the elements and are called as a protection and to witness the working

that should hold you til you get a proper cm answer

um, what is your source for the cm you are working? - are you working from a book or do you have a actual teacher/group you are working with?

if you are working with a group, i'd ask them as these are the sorts of basic questions teachers always get

i am not a ceremonial magician, but i can probably touch on some of them - i'd love to know if i'm right on these or not - i've read regardie, etc, but i'm a witch at heart lol

>>[1] Why is the LBRP done in a dark room? Can it not be done in daylight?

in the dark your mind is more open to the thinks that cannot be seen?

>>[2] Why is it that we have to walk clockwise? What does it mean in magickal terms?

clockwise is the apparent motion of the sun - sunwise, right hand path, generation versus dissolution

>>[3] What is the significance of lighting candles? Is there a specific way the candles are supposed to be placed?

candle magic - the ritual should outline the candle placement - doesn't it?

[4] What is the purpose of calling the archangels? I've read they could be substituted, but it's not my desire to do that, I simply want to know why they are called and what functions they perform.

the archangels are probably like calling the quarters in witchcraft - they say that the alexandrian tradition, which uses quarters, influenced gerald gardner when he went to england and met some of the alexandrians and worked some rituals with them and they gave him access to their book of shadows - i don't call the quarters, but from what my old teacher told me years ago, the quarters, watchtowers, whatever, are the four beast-headed angels surrounding the throne of god (which would make them archangels, ya?)- they are the embodiment of the elements and are called as a protection and to witness the working

that should hold you til you get a proper cm answer

Thanks for your response Esoterica. I'm reading the Donald Michael Kraig book Modern Magick. He describes the LBRP and the aspects that go into it, and although he does provide some insight into why certain things are done in the ritual, he does't explain all of them.

You've definitely provided me answers I'm going to look more into, so it will hold me, haha. I want to get more in depth; closer to factual concepts, such as when you say the possibility of the clockwise walk when doing the LBRP is because of the apparent motion of the sun. If that is in fact, a fact, I can understand it. But in general,
- why would the clockwise rotation of the sun have anything to do with a magickal ritual? Why is the sun's rotation important by magickal means to a ritual?

I've reread the LBRP section of Modern Magick and he doesn't describe candle placement. He only says one may use one or several white candles for a room during the ritual. I just wondered, when I was doing the LBRP, considering that the ritual seems to possess specific guidelines, if candle placement was as important as the other aspects in this ritual.

i want to apologize if my questions are becoming a bit aggravating, but I really want to know why I'm doing certain things in a ritual. It just seems to me that if I wish to perform magick, I should know in great detail why certain things must be done.

Thanks.