Accidental Sorcery?, Casting spells without trying? Options

Hi,

I'm not sure if I posted this in the right section; the way I learned, sorcery was defined as magick done only in the mind. So if I did post this in the wrong section, would a mod please move it to the right section?


Tonight, as I was outside watering my plants, I was looking at the lights from the elementary school that's across from my back yard. As I stood there looking at the lights I thought to myself how I really disliked the lights (they are very bright street light type lights that are always on).

I started to think, wouldn't it be great if I could just get rid of the lights with no effort? So, just playing around, I picked out a light and imagined that I had a sharp metal spearhead in my hand. I imagined myself raising my hand to my mouth and blowing, as if I were blowing a kiss. In my mind the spearhead zoomed through the air and in 1 to 2 seconds traveled the 100 to 200 yards to the light and made contact, destroying it. Almost instantly that exact light went out. I don't know if it turned off or burned out, but it went out and didn't come back on.

It reminded me of something else that happened earlier this year where I was at a funeral and thought to myself, "wouldn't it be strange if the deceased's spirit started playing with that lamp; making it turn on and off?" And that's what happened; the lamp shut off immediately and flickered on and off throughout the whole service.

In both these incidents I didn't intend to cause any change, I was just playing in my mind. 'What if' scenarios, but they happened anyway, instantly.

I've been practicing magick for well over a decade, but I've never had this happen, that I know of. I may have but just wrote it off as coincidence. And instant results to boot.

My question is, is it possible I was preforming magick without any intention of doing so? And if so, why the instant results? I understand these could very well be coincidences, but that's really far out there if they are.

Do any of you have any experience with this happening to you or anyone else? Do any of you have any stories like this where you might have caused change but you weren't even trying?

I welcome your thoughts and stories.

Hey there~ awesome questions. I'm being serious, I love food for thought, so I'll try to answer each of 'em.

So you are saying that, for example, if someone is meant to die, the universe or whatever you'd prefer to call it, uses the path of least resistance to achieve the task?

I'd say that the universe does as it pleases, and that in that way, we are extensions of it, and we're frankly far too small and narrow minded to actually understand what sort of path it'll take. I'm fairly slow, incompetent and young, so I'll also say that I'm not calling anybody stupid, just to be up front, its more that the universe does as it pleases, and I doubt considering its literally existence, that it doesn't require any form or concern about resistance or difficulty.

But, at the same time, I honestly have no idea. To take the traditional rational system challenge against an irrational system, I would frankly have no idea what would happen if the hypothetically impenetrable shield and the all piercing lance were to collide.

The person is meant to die so the universe uses the late bus driver that's speeding to kill the man? But if the man happens to step out of the way of the bus he would later choke on an apple, the next best path of least resistance?

Lovely example. I'm also being serious, death is a fantastic thing to bring into this equation. Frankly, I'd say yes, but at the same time as I noted, that I don't think that a rational system can comprehend the way the universe does its business. But, in a happy Calvinist way, I'd say everything has been taken into account, including our free will. Whether or not its your bus driver or the apple, or our stereotypical angry 土地公/patron turf spirit, I'd assume that something would happen some way, but I'd say that I'm not smart enough to calculate the variables to determine whether or not an infinite force with a mind/soul/'thing that governs itself' would go about doing that. Looking at it another way, if the universe itself were to look down into everything, i'd assume that the variables and timeframe that i'd calculate be a completely different thing. Its like how the owner of a fish tank would think differently from the goldfish running away from the squid on the bottom of the tank.

Is the only reason I imagined destroying the light because the universe needed that light to go out and used me to channel the energy to do it, or did the universe take the opportunity that I presented to channel energy through me? Basically, did the universe control me or just take the opportunity that I gave it?

Frankly I don't know, but I will say that for example, ripping somebody out of a diabetic coma, or Picasso painting Guernica instead of Andy Warhol doing it when he's drunk occur for reasons beyond our own comprehension. I would say that yes, in fact that the universe had plans in mind for you, but they had plans for me for having to re-type the word plans 4 times in this sentence because I couldn't spell it right. But at the same time, I don't think that our natural idea of "because" and "therefore" might even apply to the universe, but basically, I don't feel that we have any right to claim what's ours as ours if we're going to go with that. How are we supposed to live and conduct our lives in ways we wish to? I'd say that an alternative is to acknowledge the concept and continue on with life as we wish to, since we don't have the brain power to go about charging at celestial windmills. Yes, this post is fairly irrational, dis-empowering and long, and will piss people off, but I feel the idea of all of this is to just acknowledge the fact and waltz down the whatever paradigm you/we've selected and do whatever you're doing: the universe will handle itself in whatever way it wants to.

One experiment you should to just to see what happens, is take a complex living system. Preferably a dog, cat, or human being, you get it, anything with a slightly higher form of intelligence than an insect, and isolate it in every way you can. Avoid the mess of putting it into a vacuum chamber, and go straight to the point and isolate it energetically: create so many blockages in its energy system to the point that barely energy can travel out (and in, of course) and observe for a few days (or hours, depending on the life form) its behavior. We're really not as far from being cells in the universal plant than we think we are.

This post has been edited by kaboom13: Jul 15 2010, 11:57 PM