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Iamnoone
post Jul 15 2010, 12:06 AM
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Hi,

I'm not sure if I posted this in the right section; the way I learned, sorcery was defined as magick done only in the mind. So if I did post this in the wrong section, would a mod please move it to the right section?


Tonight, as I was outside watering my plants, I was looking at the lights from the elementary school that's across from my back yard. As I stood there looking at the lights I thought to myself how I really disliked the lights (they are very bright street light type lights that are always on).

I started to think, wouldn't it be great if I could just get rid of the lights with no effort? So, just playing around, I picked out a light and imagined that I had a sharp metal spearhead in my hand. I imagined myself raising my hand to my mouth and blowing, as if I were blowing a kiss. In my mind the spearhead zoomed through the air and in 1 to 2 seconds traveled the 100 to 200 yards to the light and made contact, destroying it. Almost instantly that exact light went out. I don't know if it turned off or burned out, but it went out and didn't come back on.

It reminded me of something else that happened earlier this year where I was at a funeral and thought to myself, "wouldn't it be strange if the deceased's spirit started playing with that lamp; making it turn on and off?" And that's what happened; the lamp shut off immediately and flickered on and off throughout the whole service.

In both these incidents I didn't intend to cause any change, I was just playing in my mind. 'What if' scenarios, but they happened anyway, instantly.

I've been practicing magick for well over a decade, but I've never had this happen, that I know of. I may have but just wrote it off as coincidence. And instant results to boot.

My question is, is it possible I was preforming magick without any intention of doing so? And if so, why the instant results? I understand these could very well be coincidences, but that's really far out there if they are.

Do any of you have any experience with this happening to you or anyone else? Do any of you have any stories like this where you might have caused change but you weren't even trying?

I welcome your thoughts and stories.

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Iamnoone
post Jul 16 2010, 11:22 PM
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(Before I start, let me make something perfectly clear. I'm not attacking you; I don't mean any disrespect in any way, and I'm not questioning or challenging your beliefs; but this post may be seen as such due to the fact that I'm horrible when wording text while at the same time trying to get my point across. I just want to make it clear that my only interest is having a conversation with you and learning more about what you believe as well as learning more about you as a person. This post may seem as if it's angry or defensive or any other number of emotions; it's not. I just really suck at getting my point across in text without sounding like an a**hole. I don't intend to do it, it's just one of my faults.)


I think I'm starting to get what you are saying. Let me know if I'm wrong.

Let's go back to examples because that's the best way for me to describe ideas and concepts.

Let's say the universe is a human, "we'll refer to it as Universal Human as to not get confused" and we (Conscious Humans) are each or collectively a cell or part of a cell within the Universal Human. Am I correct in understanding that you are saying that like Conscious Humans the Universal Human doesn't give any, if very little, thought to the small bits that make us up? I mean we (CH) KNOW about our cells and even how they function and what services they provide but we don't name them or care about what happens to them as long as they are preforming correctly. Only when the cells malfunction and create cancer or attack the body in some other way do we take notice. Are you saying that like our cells we are programed from creation to follow a certain path as a whole, individual, or both in order to serve the body of the UH? No free will, will never have the capability to understand anything significant about the UH or ourselves really, just a small part that makes up the whole that the whole really isn't aware of?

Or are you saying that it's all just an accident and the UH has no consciousness, we are bound by unbreakable universal laws and can't change anything on really any level, and we're the ones creating and living in a delusional state thinking otherwise? Basically are you saying that the UH has a consciousness but it's so grand that we'll never be able to understand anything about it or any of the plans it may have or are you saying the UH has no consciousness at all and everything is just a matter of calculations, variables?

I, myself, believe in the second, the no god/consciousness theory, except I believe in freewill and that our own consciousnesses and freewill make us different from normal energy, sort of above the natural law if you please. Immortal, infinite consciousnesses.

Anyway I believe you are saying that we really don't have any control at all, in any form, I'm taking liberties in say that; let me know if I'm wrong. If that is the case, on a more personal note, what are you doing on a magick board? One of the main aspects of magick is to cause desired change; if you don't believe we have any control or capacity to change things, why are you here? I'm just curious. Also I have a feeling our posts are going to get off topic from the OP pretty quickly and the mods might have a problem with that but I do wish to continue this conversation. So, if you have to, pm me so we can continue, if you want to continue that is.


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Iamnoone   Accidental Sorcery?   Jul 15 2010, 12:06 AM
Kath   Do any of you have any experience with this happen...   Jul 15 2010, 02:15 AM
fatherjhon   This is why it try not to think to much or hard un...   Jul 15 2010, 06:37 AM
esoterica   oh yeah - and it is not without intention - you di...   Jul 15 2010, 08:29 AM
Iamnoone   Thanks for all the replies. Now that I see this h...   Jul 15 2010, 10:26 AM
kaboom13   I come from the point of view that individuals are...   Jul 15 2010, 11:51 AM
Iamnoone   I come from the point of view that individuals ar...   Jul 15 2010, 02:23 PM
kaboom13   Hey there~ awesome questions. I'm being serio...   Jul 15 2010, 11:45 PM
kaboom13   Hey hey~ this is fantastic questions. Your first ...   Jul 17 2010, 10:09 PM
Iamnoone   Thank you for your post; I understand where you...   Jul 18 2010, 03:04 AM
kaboom13   Hey there~ I'm really happy I can help. To b...   Jul 18 2010, 09:35 AM
Iamnoone   Yes, I would love to know more about your past exp...   Jul 19 2010, 04:29 AM
Kath   wow, I work some overtime and you guys pack 50 zil...   Jul 19 2010, 09:21 AM
kaboom13   Kath I demand a high-five of the epic sort. You h...   Jul 19 2010, 10:53 AM
Kath   hehe, um... well, i don't quite believe in a U...   Jul 19 2010, 12:45 PM
scoobs   Here is a link to visualize the universal human, c...   Jul 19 2010, 06:06 PM
Iamnoone   Kath, Some of the things you said are kind of an...   Jul 20 2010, 08:09 AM
kaboom13   I'm going to have to jump on this, but I might...   Jul 20 2010, 01:18 PM
esoterica   a wonderful post! oh i'm right there with...   Jul 21 2010, 08:09 AM
Kath   first impression : "brilliant!" but...   Jul 22 2010, 09:55 AM
Mchawi   Would like to add to the atmosphere of intrest her...   Aug 5 2010, 07:59 AM
scoobs   I do not think the 4th dimensional higher self can...   Aug 5 2010, 11:18 AM
Iamnoone   I do not think the 4th dimensional higher self ca...   Aug 8 2010, 08:10 AM

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