Accidental Sorcery?, Casting spells without trying? Options

Hi,

I'm not sure if I posted this in the right section; the way I learned, sorcery was defined as magick done only in the mind. So if I did post this in the wrong section, would a mod please move it to the right section?


Tonight, as I was outside watering my plants, I was looking at the lights from the elementary school that's across from my back yard. As I stood there looking at the lights I thought to myself how I really disliked the lights (they are very bright street light type lights that are always on).

I started to think, wouldn't it be great if I could just get rid of the lights with no effort? So, just playing around, I picked out a light and imagined that I had a sharp metal spearhead in my hand. I imagined myself raising my hand to my mouth and blowing, as if I were blowing a kiss. In my mind the spearhead zoomed through the air and in 1 to 2 seconds traveled the 100 to 200 yards to the light and made contact, destroying it. Almost instantly that exact light went out. I don't know if it turned off or burned out, but it went out and didn't come back on.

It reminded me of something else that happened earlier this year where I was at a funeral and thought to myself, "wouldn't it be strange if the deceased's spirit started playing with that lamp; making it turn on and off?" And that's what happened; the lamp shut off immediately and flickered on and off throughout the whole service.

In both these incidents I didn't intend to cause any change, I was just playing in my mind. 'What if' scenarios, but they happened anyway, instantly.

I've been practicing magick for well over a decade, but I've never had this happen, that I know of. I may have but just wrote it off as coincidence. And instant results to boot.

My question is, is it possible I was preforming magick without any intention of doing so? And if so, why the instant results? I understand these could very well be coincidences, but that's really far out there if they are.

Do any of you have any experience with this happening to you or anyone else? Do any of you have any stories like this where you might have caused change but you weren't even trying?

I welcome your thoughts and stories.

Hey hey~ this is fantastic questions.

Your first question is a tough one for me, and I hate feeling like i'm dishing out Christian arguments (I don't exactly agree with their paradigm.) UH is what Voudoun and Daoism refer to as the "distant god" UH as an entity is completely different in every sense of its existence. Its conscious and sentient by our definitions, but far, far, far, far more than that. Voudoun claims that UH is an inherently different form of consciousness and any communication directly with him without an egregore to back him is would be essentially either be entirely nonsensical or we would lose our minds in contact with such a massive force that we'd be incapable of understanding anything forever. Daoism theorizes that UH (the jade emperor in this case) is essentially an egregore that's so powerful and beyond our own comprehension that his very perception of himself is so completely beyond our own organic mind's ability process the concept that we cannot connect with him in any useful way that he uses Gods and Buddhas as a middleman.

Basically, my view of UH is a combination of both Voudoun's view and Daoism. (Just a footnote, they're both stunningly similar and I actually work in a mixed paradigm between them and a few others. Try it if you can take gods that demand kowtows and will brutally punish if you violate their laws.) UH is essentially a consciousness (which isn't even the right word to describe a thing that massive) that's essentially an entity who's power is immeasurable beyond our comprehension, and the fact that we're physically bound to organic brains and spiritually bound with egos, we cannot even accurately percieve UH.

The next part of this would be how UH and we interact. First off, I'd say that total nirvana essentially elevates an individual into a state where they break away from the physical, and spiritually, they are completely integrated with UH, basically dying, or actually becoming part of UH's existence/'consciousness.' In our perception of things, UH basically has basically total and absolute control of literally everything. Free will is a matter of perception; it does exist, but in all actuality, our free will is apart of UH, which essentially makes free will an illusion. And following this notion, the tangible and the physical laws that exist and the flukes and flaws, and everything, literally everything is the work of UH.

But, none of this ultimately matters. Working against or with UH doesn't matter. UH is literally infinite (I think, i'm still trying to figure that out, I perceive UH as infinite), and our finite contribution or contradiction in the face of infinity is pointless, but at the same time UH's 'work.' (ugh Christian terminology) What to do from here? UH doesn't matter. Whether or not that you care or not, since you don't make a difference, that leaves to doing whatever you want, perceiving whatever you want. The 'true' big picture is so big that the single pixels we are won't make a difference. So, all there is to do is to pay attention to being individual pixels. Live happily, murder, torture, save lives, destroy lives, its your damn problem, and your fruits are your own.

This pertains to magick. Following what I set out, UH is literally everything, controls everything, et cetera et cetera. (No, I have no idea what'd happen to the destruction of the universe we perceive as it is.) UH exists as not only an entity but literally time, existence, our own perceptions of stuff at the same time. Therefore, I'd say that in all actuality, magick happens to us, not the other way around. Typically, the idea of magick involves an individual having the agency to act and change things, right? I'd say that these weren't changes to begin with, more just a continual flow of events. As an individual bound by our sentience, we perceive change because we don't perceive the actual flow of events that occur, and that what we perceive as magick is not an actual diversion in what's supposed to occur, but just another event that's intended to occur.

I'm on forum because a gigantic amount of my practices are still by definition magick. I think I've defined free will to be really an illusion, but ultimately, in our finite existence (versus the infinite), that illusion really doesn't completely matter. I still have to kill energy forms, deal with psi vamps, go into gnosis, do energy manipulation, make contracts and negotiate with egregores. As stated (I hope to god I did), that really, we do have a capacity to 'change' stuff. In all actuality, we don't, in this almost pointlessly huge way of seeing things, but in the way we see the world through our eyes and feel through our senses, we do 'change' things.

Right now, I'm still a bit torn about magick, but this is also interesting to brush shoulders with theologians that aren't christian. For literally all eighteen years of my life, I've used my own personal energy to do things. I make my own constructs, I do my own work, et cetera, I don't have problems with energy unless if I do something exhaustive. Then comes along universal energy, nature et cetera, and pretty much, its magnanimously more powerful than any egregore that I know, and doesn't have a consciousness in a form that I can't comprehend.

I might've missed some questions, but basically, this is the first time i've fully explained my paradigm, I might go onto pm or actual email for the sake of convenience, since this is just the tip of the iceberg.

By the way, my last psychiatric evaluation has deemed that I'm legally and clinincally sane and stable, and I've demanded an explanation, but I'm not apparently delusional. I explained almost all of this (or everything I could when I was asked about my beliefs), and I stared at the doctor and asked about sanity issues, and I haven't had any. Or I haven't discovered any anti psychotics being laced into my food.

This post has been edited by kaboom13: Jul 17 2010, 10:09 PM