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Iamnoone
post Jul 15 2010, 12:06 AM
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Hi,

I'm not sure if I posted this in the right section; the way I learned, sorcery was defined as magick done only in the mind. So if I did post this in the wrong section, would a mod please move it to the right section?


Tonight, as I was outside watering my plants, I was looking at the lights from the elementary school that's across from my back yard. As I stood there looking at the lights I thought to myself how I really disliked the lights (they are very bright street light type lights that are always on).

I started to think, wouldn't it be great if I could just get rid of the lights with no effort? So, just playing around, I picked out a light and imagined that I had a sharp metal spearhead in my hand. I imagined myself raising my hand to my mouth and blowing, as if I were blowing a kiss. In my mind the spearhead zoomed through the air and in 1 to 2 seconds traveled the 100 to 200 yards to the light and made contact, destroying it. Almost instantly that exact light went out. I don't know if it turned off or burned out, but it went out and didn't come back on.

It reminded me of something else that happened earlier this year where I was at a funeral and thought to myself, "wouldn't it be strange if the deceased's spirit started playing with that lamp; making it turn on and off?" And that's what happened; the lamp shut off immediately and flickered on and off throughout the whole service.

In both these incidents I didn't intend to cause any change, I was just playing in my mind. 'What if' scenarios, but they happened anyway, instantly.

I've been practicing magick for well over a decade, but I've never had this happen, that I know of. I may have but just wrote it off as coincidence. And instant results to boot.

My question is, is it possible I was preforming magick without any intention of doing so? And if so, why the instant results? I understand these could very well be coincidences, but that's really far out there if they are.

Do any of you have any experience with this happening to you or anyone else? Do any of you have any stories like this where you might have caused change but you weren't even trying?

I welcome your thoughts and stories.

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Iamnoone
post Jul 18 2010, 03:04 AM
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Thank you for your post; I understand where you're coning from so much better now.

Getting a small glimpse of your belief structure I can't help but be overwhelmed by the shear incomprehensibility of it all. By that I mean, your explanation of what the UH is is so complex that if I tried to understand it my mind would unravel. Which is the point I guess and validates your explanation of the UH to have been successful. I'm taken aback by the 'largeness' of it all.

How long have you been coming to this realization? I ask because wrapping your mind around even the realization the UH is so unknowable and complex must have taken some time. If you came to understand this quickly then I must say that your mind is more cohesive than mine; I wouldn't be able to absorb and adapt to that knowledge, it would destroy my mind.

I would never be able to find comfort in an existence where my actions and freewill really didn't matter in the entire scope of it all. I guess that's one of the reasons I don't believe in a UH in any form. Being controlled, being a 'programed machine' for lack of a better metaphor or insignificant to the larger scheme is the opposite of everything I am. If what you say is true than I guess I'm just programed that way.

Back when I still believed in a Creator, at best I believed I was equal to it; do to the fact I couldn't fathom or accept being controlled or 'less than'. I still don't understand how people can view themselves as 'less than' or 'not worthy' (I'm referring to most Christians as well as Muslims ect.. ). But different strokes for different folks; I'm not arrogant or ignorant enough to believe that I KNOW the absolute truth and everyone else is wrong.

You can imagine how my Christian family reacted to my beliefs. "That's Satanic thinking." to paraphrase. Which is true I guess. The one thing you are taught as a Christian is that God is above ALL things and nothing can EVER be equal to it, and if you happen to think otherwise then you're evil.

Of all the things you discussed, the bit about merging with the UH and losing One's spirituality really caught my attention. The very thought that what I believe to be quite possibly the most important aspect of my existence is actually trivial is brilliant. I say that because it forces me out of MY paradigm, and that always leads to growth and change for the better for me. It doesn't even matter if our definitions of spirituality differ; the idea now exists non the less. I can't wait to concentrate on it and think it through.

How do you personally cope with all this knowledge? Do you take comfort in the fact that everything is following a plan (even if it's impossible for you to understand it.) ? Or do you not like that fact and just 'deal' with it?

And please don't feel that you have to explain your psychiatric health; in my opinion and beliefs you don't need to be validated by anyone other than yourself. I accept you and your beliefs for what you and they are. If I went with the majority definition of reality than I would still be a Christan; among other things. I'm my opinion just because the majority or any other large group says reality is 'this' doesn't mean that it is. I feel that each person makes their own reality and that each reality made by whomever is legitimate. In MY reality God doesn't exist, but in my sister's reality it does and his name is Jesus Christ and when she prays to him he listens and answers her prayers. Jesus don't exist in my reality (yet. I may have an experience that proves otherwise.) but he DOES exist in hers. To make it as clear as possible, think of YOUR reality as a separate universe from everyone else's reality that may or may not share common characteristics. So basically, everyone exists in their own universe with it's own unique set of rules. People may argue with that, but it doesn't matter. I will NEVER believe that what you say isn't the truth; I will NEVER tell you that you're wrong; because I don't believe you are wrong. MY reality may differ, but that doesn't mean that YOUR reality is false in anyway.

Out of curiosity, why the psychiatric exam anyway? Did you ask for it or was it 'forced' on you? You don't have to answer that if you don't want. I don't want to pry; I'm just curious. I do hate to think it may have been forced; that would be mentally and emotionally painful and damaging.



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Iamnoone   Accidental Sorcery?   Jul 15 2010, 12:06 AM
Kath   Do any of you have any experience with this happen...   Jul 15 2010, 02:15 AM
fatherjhon   This is why it try not to think to much or hard un...   Jul 15 2010, 06:37 AM
esoterica   oh yeah - and it is not without intention - you di...   Jul 15 2010, 08:29 AM
Iamnoone   Thanks for all the replies. Now that I see this h...   Jul 15 2010, 10:26 AM
kaboom13   I come from the point of view that individuals are...   Jul 15 2010, 11:51 AM
Iamnoone   I come from the point of view that individuals ar...   Jul 15 2010, 02:23 PM
kaboom13   Hey there~ awesome questions. I'm being serio...   Jul 15 2010, 11:45 PM
Iamnoone   (Before I start, let me make something perfectly c...   Jul 16 2010, 11:22 PM
kaboom13   Hey hey~ this is fantastic questions. Your first ...   Jul 17 2010, 10:09 PM
kaboom13   Hey there~ I'm really happy I can help. To b...   Jul 18 2010, 09:35 AM
Iamnoone   Yes, I would love to know more about your past exp...   Jul 19 2010, 04:29 AM
Kath   wow, I work some overtime and you guys pack 50 zil...   Jul 19 2010, 09:21 AM
kaboom13   Kath I demand a high-five of the epic sort. You h...   Jul 19 2010, 10:53 AM
Kath   hehe, um... well, i don't quite believe in a U...   Jul 19 2010, 12:45 PM
scoobs   Here is a link to visualize the universal human, c...   Jul 19 2010, 06:06 PM
Iamnoone   Kath, Some of the things you said are kind of an...   Jul 20 2010, 08:09 AM
kaboom13   I'm going to have to jump on this, but I might...   Jul 20 2010, 01:18 PM
esoterica   a wonderful post! oh i'm right there with...   Jul 21 2010, 08:09 AM
Kath   first impression : "brilliant!" but...   Jul 22 2010, 09:55 AM
Mchawi   Would like to add to the atmosphere of intrest her...   Aug 5 2010, 07:59 AM
scoobs   I do not think the 4th dimensional higher self can...   Aug 5 2010, 11:18 AM
Iamnoone   I do not think the 4th dimensional higher self ca...   Aug 8 2010, 08:10 AM

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