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arkham
post Jul 11 2010, 12:30 AM
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First of all, my sincerest greetings to everyone, may you all be blessed

Would like to do a little introduction first since I'm new to this forum and also to give a little background on the matter I'm currently dealing with, hope you guys don't mind

My current alias in this forum is arkham, I'm a knowledge seeker who had just recently found myself stepping into the path of what i would eventually recognize as some form of magick, the path which also brought me here to this forum

I don't really know how to classify my current path, since its more of a mix of the principles of everything i had read and learn about the world

The method i use is the basic implementation of the four classical western elements ( I'm still a beginner, so i don't really have much knowledge in methods and stuff ),
- the air, which is to possess the knowledge and a clear visualization of the consequence and direction of what one wish to realize
- the earth, which is to possess the faith and the belief that the things that one wishes to be realized will absolutely be realized
- the water, which is to let the things that one wish to be realized to smoothly flow into realization with minimal influence/disturbance from the outside world by wisely choosing what to act and what not to act during one's everyday life
- the fire, which is to possess the intention and will to make what one wish to realize to really be realized in life, in short the energy that fuels the realization/manifestation

The principle i think is similar to the Know, Will, Dare and Keep Silent that I've learned in several sites so far

Regarding the matter, I'm currently having trouble with generating this fire principle, or so to speak, I'm having trouble in generating the intention and will that i need to realize what i wish to realize

It's not that i don't have any intention/will, if that was the case, i won't be writing this post here to find the answer

It's just that i feel that the level of intention that I generate is too low (or calm maybe), analogically it's like a gentle lantern that shines constantly but weak, instead of the intense fire that i am seeking to generate

The gentle constant state of intention that i currently have at present does work nicely to fuel the realization of my magick, but in a rather slow and subtle way as well, not that it's a bad thing, it's just that during my troubled time, i possess a very intense will when i wish to do something (note: the intention was mostly negative at the time though), and the realization of that intent was almost always instant (most of what happened are bad things though), and it's been awhile since i experienced that level of realization now (i had currently made peace with myself), so i was wondering why

From my observation so far, the fact that i was not as troubled as before and that i was more open and acceptable to things that happened around me now was somewhat affecting my intention level

The only moment where i can generate an intention level that intense in my current state is when i was in a life-death or "this is my last chance, it is either totally succeed or totally screwed" situation (had several of them lately), while during my troubled time, i don't need any life-death situation to trigger such intention, i was simply burning and fiery all the time back then

I could maybe do things or emulate my mind to generate an extreme situation that might be able to fuel my intention, but it's not really comfortable to rely on that kind of solution

So, shortly speaking, any advice regarding how to generate an intense level of intention in normal everyday condition?

Thanks in advance to anyone who read this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Jul 19 2010, 10:52 PM
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I think of my spiritual goals as "ambitious", and as a result, I don't feel as though I will achieve them by way of being timid or lacking determination. So "risky" is a word which I have mostly come to ignore. I have found that 'most' things which people think are dangerous or ill advised, are in fact not dangerous, or are very minimally dangerous, or are only dangerous until you get a feel for what you're doing, which only happens one way. There are exceptions of course, I mean I have been to the emergency room as a direct result of poor judgement in my metaphysical actions. But that's the exception to the general rule. "Dangerous" is a word which people more often use to discourage others from experimenting with things that don't jive with their ideology, than it is used to describe things that actually have risk. Anyway, my cut-off for "acceptable risk" is very high.


Anyway, you're right, I agree with you. That you don't have to subdivide the self to achieve what I described. I agree that you can accomplish the same thing without doing that. We are talking about something I did pretty early on in my occult career. Currently I would more likely just refocus my consciousness to recognize the lack of difference/separation between "self" and "other", so that consciousness shifts in such a way that "other" is basically an extended part of 'self'. So I'm not necessarily recommending my old energy-manip-visualization method (though it works fine), I'm more hoping that it illustrates the dual nature of engaging external energies, the dance of give & take, the effects of passively resonating with something, and the doorway that opens up to actively resonate *at* something, to first gently work your fingers around something, and then wield it. Sort of the yin & yang of energy manipulation.

The outdated method I described is perfectly safe though. I consider it to be obsolete (like 'shielding', and dozens of other methods I have used over the years), but there's nothing wrong with the method. I didn't generally leave the energy body in that state 'full time', but rather used it as a part time 'mod' when I wanted/needed it. I used to be a regular energy-sponge, so I soaked up a lot of what was around me. This resulted in fairly rampant and uncontrolled empathy. The method I described allowed for controlling empathy, without shutting it down with a shield or anything. And also allowed for increased capacity for empathic sensation, not to mention a greater capacity for forming interpersonal spiritual connections or wielding external energy.

But yeah, nowadays I might try a method which focuses more on partially channeling the "larger self", exploiting more recent understandings about 'self' and 'will' in a non-finite sense. I think of classical visualized energy manipulation methods as sort of "first generation", I'm currently very comfortable with what might be called second generation methods, and investigating/studying something more like third gen. By this I mean that in the study of magick, there will be times when you realize certain understandings which basically renders everything you've been using 'obsolete'. I've done that once, mastered a new set of approaches, and am working on upping the ante again. Recognizing that distance/separation don't really exist would be more '2nd gen'. Channeling a non-finite state of self would be more '3rd gen', and would be the more 'gnosis' oriented approach, which I think is kinda similar to your idea of engaging the unconscious mind.

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arkham   Need Some Advice On Generating Intention/will   Jul 11 2010, 12:30 AM
esoterica   howdy and welcome intention is based in desire - ...   Jul 11 2010, 07:03 AM
Barnard   a grandma who sees her grandchild pinned under a ...   Jul 14 2010, 11:28 AM
arkham   Thanks for the advice esoterica, appreciate it :) ...   Jul 11 2010, 06:36 PM
kaboom13   Interesting. Intention is a interesting thing. W...   Jul 11 2010, 06:40 PM
arkham   @kaboom13 Thx for replying ;) What I'm workin...   Jul 11 2010, 08:14 PM
kaboom13   I've been taught the idea that man is merely a...   Jul 11 2010, 10:54 PM
Kath   I am liking this thread. really cool introspection...   Jul 12 2010, 04:28 AM
arkham   EDITED: After reading Kath's post I feel that...   Jul 12 2010, 04:31 AM
kaboom13   Hey Barnard~ No, that's actually not the case...   Jul 14 2010, 02:48 PM
Kath   Hey Barnard~ No, that's actually not the cas...   Jul 15 2010, 01:43 AM
sohazia   With WILL, its not about "I want", ...   Sep 28 2010, 09:38 AM
arkham   Hiya everyone, I'm back I was contemplating o...   Jul 17 2010, 08:52 PM
kaboom13   I feel that ultimately, it isn't attempting to...   Jul 17 2010, 09:19 PM
arkham   I would argue that true power comes from not the ...   Jul 17 2010, 10:27 PM
kaboom13   Hey there~ you made a lot more sense, and I defini...   Jul 18 2010, 09:44 AM
Kath   a long time ago, i fashioned what I called a ...   Jul 19 2010, 09:48 AM
arkham   @kaboom Thanks for the thought, appreciate it ;) ...   Jul 19 2010, 07:31 PM
arkham   I guess I understand the the 1st gen, 2nd gen, 3d ...   Jul 20 2010, 05:11 PM
Kath   hehe, well, not sure I'd call it a spell. I pi...   Jul 22 2010, 09:12 AM
arkham   Well, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger...   Jul 22 2010, 10:23 PM
Acid09   Try not to think of it in terms of "control...   Sep 28 2010, 06:57 PM
sohazia   Try not to think of it in terms of "controll...   Oct 1 2010, 09:02 AM
☞Tomber☜   Well the way I see it I wouldn't want to be do...   Oct 1 2010, 06:08 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Well, there is meditation, and there is energy wor...   Oct 1 2010, 06:28 PM

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