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Iamnoone
post Jul 15 2010, 12:06 AM
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Hi,

I'm not sure if I posted this in the right section; the way I learned, sorcery was defined as magick done only in the mind. So if I did post this in the wrong section, would a mod please move it to the right section?


Tonight, as I was outside watering my plants, I was looking at the lights from the elementary school that's across from my back yard. As I stood there looking at the lights I thought to myself how I really disliked the lights (they are very bright street light type lights that are always on).

I started to think, wouldn't it be great if I could just get rid of the lights with no effort? So, just playing around, I picked out a light and imagined that I had a sharp metal spearhead in my hand. I imagined myself raising my hand to my mouth and blowing, as if I were blowing a kiss. In my mind the spearhead zoomed through the air and in 1 to 2 seconds traveled the 100 to 200 yards to the light and made contact, destroying it. Almost instantly that exact light went out. I don't know if it turned off or burned out, but it went out and didn't come back on.

It reminded me of something else that happened earlier this year where I was at a funeral and thought to myself, "wouldn't it be strange if the deceased's spirit started playing with that lamp; making it turn on and off?" And that's what happened; the lamp shut off immediately and flickered on and off throughout the whole service.

In both these incidents I didn't intend to cause any change, I was just playing in my mind. 'What if' scenarios, but they happened anyway, instantly.

I've been practicing magick for well over a decade, but I've never had this happen, that I know of. I may have but just wrote it off as coincidence. And instant results to boot.

My question is, is it possible I was preforming magick without any intention of doing so? And if so, why the instant results? I understand these could very well be coincidences, but that's really far out there if they are.

Do any of you have any experience with this happening to you or anyone else? Do any of you have any stories like this where you might have caused change but you weren't even trying?

I welcome your thoughts and stories.

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Iamnoone
post Jul 20 2010, 08:09 AM
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Kath,

Some of the things you said are kind of an conformation for me. I'm going to copy paste something I wrote and posted a few days ago on a different board; I'd like your opinion on it.
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I have precognitive dreams; here's one of the theories that I've formulated to try and explain them.

It's my opinion that our consciousness doesn't solely exist in 3rd dimensional space time.

In 3rd dimensional space time our consciousness exists in the present, in the moment, this is all we experience. We may remember the past, but we ONLY experience the present. But if our consciousness partly existed in 4th dimensional space time then we would experience every single moment of our lives at once; there would be no past, present, or future. To make it clearer, in the 4th dimension if you were to look at yourself in a mirror you would see a snake like creature; at one end the moment you were born and at the other the moment you die, the middle would be a physical representation of your entire life between birth and death. In the 4th dimension you would experience your entire history all at the same time.

Now, let's say that our consciousness doesn't purely exist in the 3rd dimension; one part exists here while another part exists in the 4th dimension. We'll say that the part of our consciousness that exists in the 4th dimension is connected to the subconscious part of our brain here in the 3rd dimension. I say that because dreams take place in the subconscious. It's also my opinion that this is where the psychic sense exists; precognition, intuition, ect...

Now let's say that the part of your consciousness that exists in the 4th dimension is self aware just like the part of your consciousness in the 3rd dimension is self aware. Let's say that for whatever reason your 4th dimensional consciousness is looking at itself and sees that a part of itself is damaged and that damage affects it adversely.

Remember, in this scenario your 4th dimensional self exists all at once; to make it clearer, imagine you break your leg here in the 3rd dimension but instead of hurting just where your leg's broken the majority of your body hurts starting at the break and spreading up towards your head. That's how pain is perceived in the 4th dimension; if your grandmother dies and it permanently changes how you see yourself and the world, let's say you become anti-social, that means it's going to affect the rest of your life here in the 3rd dimension as well as the 4th. In the 4th dimension the pain/change from the death would start when the death accrued but would affect the rest of your 4th dimensional body that exists AFTER the death.

Can you follow that?

Now let's say that your 4th dimensional self doesn't want this damage to be permanent and effect it's body forever. The only course of action to repair the damage is to not let the damage take place. So your 4th dimensional body looks at itself and sees that the pain starts when your grandmother died. So in order to prevent the pain that effects it, your 4th dimensional self sends a vision/memory of your grandmother's death into it's 3rd dimensional self BEFORE the death occurs. The part of your consciousness that exists in the 3rd dimension receives the vision/memory and therefor you are more prepared for your grandmother's death, thus lessening or preventing the damage/pain/effect. The damage is repaired or lessened; the job get's done.

My precognitive dreams ALWAYS have to do with me or someone I'm close to being in danger. I either avoid the danger if at all possible or warn the person to help them avoid it. And believe me, my family has learned to trust and follow what I tell them. Before they didn't, but after the exact event that I told them would take place took place and they got hurt the exact way I told them they would, they've learned to listen.

Why can't they see things like I can? I have no idea. The only thing I can think of is that they don't know how or maybe it's a 4th dimensional talent or skill that not everyone has. I like to imagine myself as a 4th dimensional doctor. Someone's 4th dimensional self comes to me and says, "I'm in pain and it started here." And I say,"Ok, I'll send a message/memory back to myself in the 3rd dimension to try and help you avoid the incident that caused the damage." So by doing that I can heal both their and my 3rd and 4th dimensional damage/lives. I stop them from making a mistake in the 3rd dimension thus making their 3rd dimensional life better as well as their 4th.

That's just one theory thought.
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Where do precognitive episodes fall in your understanding of 3rd dimensional time? In your opinion, are my dreams the unpredictable aspect of consciousness you were talking about? Obviously if the information I receive is followed the timestream (for lack of a better word) changes or we are shifted into a different timestream or possibly different universe. If time and space can't be separated then there is no changing it right? One can only jump into an alternate universe where space time matches the decision / change of course. For example, time travel would be impossible since space time in this universe is already determined so if one did travel through time they would actually be traveling to an alternative universe.

Or do you think that the dreams fall into the other aspect you described, where a decision is made and is just followed out? My consciousness sends me a 'vision' and i've already decided to act on it or tell the other person and they've already decided to act or not act on the information?

What's your opinion?

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Iamnoone   Accidental Sorcery?   Jul 15 2010, 12:06 AM
Kath   Do any of you have any experience with this happen...   Jul 15 2010, 02:15 AM
fatherjhon   This is why it try not to think to much or hard un...   Jul 15 2010, 06:37 AM
esoterica   oh yeah - and it is not without intention - you di...   Jul 15 2010, 08:29 AM
Iamnoone   Thanks for all the replies. Now that I see this h...   Jul 15 2010, 10:26 AM
kaboom13   I come from the point of view that individuals are...   Jul 15 2010, 11:51 AM
Iamnoone   I come from the point of view that individuals ar...   Jul 15 2010, 02:23 PM
kaboom13   Hey there~ awesome questions. I'm being serio...   Jul 15 2010, 11:45 PM
Iamnoone   (Before I start, let me make something perfectly c...   Jul 16 2010, 11:22 PM
kaboom13   Hey hey~ this is fantastic questions. Your first ...   Jul 17 2010, 10:09 PM
Iamnoone   Thank you for your post; I understand where you...   Jul 18 2010, 03:04 AM
kaboom13   Hey there~ I'm really happy I can help. To b...   Jul 18 2010, 09:35 AM
Iamnoone   Yes, I would love to know more about your past exp...   Jul 19 2010, 04:29 AM
Kath   wow, I work some overtime and you guys pack 50 zil...   Jul 19 2010, 09:21 AM
kaboom13   Kath I demand a high-five of the epic sort. You h...   Jul 19 2010, 10:53 AM
Kath   hehe, um... well, i don't quite believe in a U...   Jul 19 2010, 12:45 PM
scoobs   Here is a link to visualize the universal human, c...   Jul 19 2010, 06:06 PM
kaboom13   I'm going to have to jump on this, but I might...   Jul 20 2010, 01:18 PM
esoterica   a wonderful post! oh i'm right there with...   Jul 21 2010, 08:09 AM
Kath   first impression : "brilliant!" but...   Jul 22 2010, 09:55 AM
Mchawi   Would like to add to the atmosphere of intrest her...   Aug 5 2010, 07:59 AM
scoobs   I do not think the 4th dimensional higher self can...   Aug 5 2010, 11:18 AM
Iamnoone   I do not think the 4th dimensional higher self ca...   Aug 8 2010, 08:10 AM

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