Is anyone here REALLY wealthy? Options

Is anyone here absolutely minted?


And did you get there via magick or guidance?

simple, when we are happy and enjoying life. It takes nothing more than that.Why reason about it, happiness does not need a goal of reason in itself, it just exists. There is no need to make logical sense of it.

What I'm saying is what Emerson had said very well; Cause and effect, means and ends, seed and fruit, cannot be severed; for the effect already blooms in the cause, the end preexists in the means, the fruit in the seed.

We did not become happy and wealthy without a cause and reason. We do not need to consciously make these goals, but we naturally will keep moving toward our comfort zones in which these goals preexists.

these things do not bring happiness by themselves. Things don't bring happiness at all. You yourself bring yourself happiness when you get these things. But you can bring yourself happiness without these things also.

Yes, I agree with you Fox, Things do not bring happiness at all, but with what we associated these things with. Everything is a thing, even nothing and emptiness is a thing. It' all about associations and how each of us feels about them.

And this conflicts strongly with what you said above.
the joy of life is not found in doing things. It can be found in the way you do things.

I'm not sure if I can see the conflict here. There's always 2 side of the story, 2 side of a coin. Just like a wheel, it will seek balance, and nothing is truely the truth. It entirely dependen on - from which perspective would you like to see it? One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

I strongly disagree. I know many old folks that have nothing to do, no purpose at all and are just enjoying their lives. I must say that these folks without a purpose look much more healthy than some younger folks with a purpose.

Fox look below the surface of what I was trying to say. Yes, they found their new purpose and joy in living in the moment, living with gratitude, and celebration. They simply find new purposes which excites them and continually feed themself with new meanings and experiments.

Purpose of a thing is NEVER outside of ourself. I repeteadly said these "things" depends on what WE associated them with. And we often change these associations as we mature, have more experience and according to our present needs and desires.

I know I'm not seeing things as they are.
I'm seeing things as I am,
~ Laurel Lee

In practical languange, let me give some example to help clarify my point.
Within two year, a person "need" to make five million dollar for which he will build a factory, send his kids to Harvard, and creates a cash cow for the wealth and well being of his family.

Does the five million dollar alone makes him happy? No. He has to had a family, a product, networks, and channel to build his factory, and his ego to satisfy his needs. What are his needs? See maslow's hierarchy of needs and it should be self explanitory. He "thinks" that 5 million dollar is what makes him happy but it does not. It is his need to "give life" to hundreds of workers in his future factory, to give a future to his kids and a provider to his family. These changes since he only can controls what he associate things with. His kids may not want to go to harvard and choose to join a band. His wife may divorce him, and he may not get the 5 million he require to achieve his desires.

Then, will he be unhappy? Not neccesarily. He simply have to change his approach and perceptions on what things mean to him. He'll make new goals, have a new purpose, find those other things which excites him. And he'll still be happy. Success is a mind's game.