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Ethereal Sight
post Aug 31 2010, 11:09 PM
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So I went to a concert with my friend today. The concert was AWESOME. However, his dad called saying we had to be out at seven (it started at 6) because my parents wanted me home. My parents were leaving that night and had said that I could metro home or he could drive me, any time was okay. I texted my dad to make sure and then my friend put me on the phone with HIS father, who insisted that my father was lying to me. I offered that maybe there had been a misunderstanding and he insisted. I said something along the lines of "You're the liar here. If you want us to leave then say so and we'll leave, but don't lie to me about what my father said or insult my father to my face." He got his back up and started freaking out.

So the friend I was with is a really good friend of mine and I don't want to harm him... His father, on the other hand, will get majorly fucked up one way or another. I'm an elemental magician who specializes in tides, waves and weather, so anything I do will be relatively large-scale, so I'm not effective here with my current skill set.

Does anybody have any curses that are specific to the victim and will not harm anybody else? I don't want to KILL him, just put him through hell one way or another without harming my friend. Anybody have something that will cause sickness or something?

Also I'm staying with a family friend at the moment and don't have much privacy to perform lengthy rituals... any suggestions? I'm also open to things like binding and such if you think that will be effective.

I've never cursed anyone before and it's against my principles as a light-wielder, but I'm putting this under the category of "respect thy parents" since him insulting my father is what made me mad and hoping God can forgive me for one transgression.

Can someone help me out?


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post Sep 1 2010, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(Ethereal Sight @ Sep 1 2010, 01:09 AM) *

I've never cursed anyone before and it's against my principles as a light-wielder, but I'm putting this under the category of "respect thy parents" since him insulting my father is what made me mad and hoping God can forgive me for one transgression.


Mmm hmm.

Clearly your principles are a little shaky. As a 'light-wielder', it should be enough for you to file this bit away about your friends father so that in the future you will have a clearer picture of who he really is. Better to know, than to trust, anyone.

You don't need any kind of forgiveness from 'God', just be willing to accept the consequences of your actions. There will be consequences of course, so assume that this is a given and consider it a sacrifice for whatever it is you want to do to the man.

Frankly, the principles of magic are the same across the board, its only the application that is different. Being a great and powerful elementalist will carry right over into small scale cursing if you apply a little creativity to the problem. Assuming you can suss out the difference between Principle and Application.

But, if you believe in cursing a man, fine. Do it and own it as something you believe in. Don't play around like you have high flying ideals and principles against it though. You're wanna do it because your mad, and that's fine, but call it like it is. There is no divinity such that it will judge you to be 'good' or 'bad' based on what you believe in, your actions will have consequences and that's all there is to it.

Tom punches Bob, Bob punches Tom back, Tom's buddy comes over and punches Bob, Bob punches Buddy, Tom punches Bob...

Tom punches Bob, Bob shrugs it off because he isn't mortally wounded and didn't really lose anything in the bargain, and remembers in the future that Tom is the type of guy that will punch him, and treats him accordingly.

There's an active and smart way to live, and there's an entirely reactive and thoughtless way.

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post Sep 1 2010, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Vagrant Dreamer @ Sep 1 2010, 06:12 PM) *

Mmm hmm.

Clearly your principles are a little shaky. As a 'light-wielder', it should be enough for you to file this bit away about your friends father so that in the future you will have a clearer picture of who he really is. Better to know, than to trust, anyone.

You don't need any kind of forgiveness from 'God', just be willing to accept the consequences of your actions. There will be consequences of course, so assume that this is a given and consider it a sacrifice for whatever it is you want to do to the man.

Frankly, the principles of magic are the same across the board, its only the application that is different. Being a great and powerful elementalist will carry right over into small scale cursing if you apply a little creativity to the problem. Assuming you can suss out the difference between Principle and Application.

But, if you believe in cursing a man, fine. Do it and own it as something you believe in. Don't play around like you have high flying ideals and principles against it though. You're wanna do it because your mad, and that's fine, but call it like it is. There is no divinity such that it will judge you to be 'good' or 'bad' based on what you believe in, your actions will have consequences and that's all there is to it.

Tom punches Bob, Bob punches Tom back, Tom's buddy comes over and punches Bob, Bob punches Buddy, Tom punches Bob...

Tom punches Bob, Bob shrugs it off because he isn't mortally wounded and didn't really lose anything in the bargain, and remembers in the future that Tom is the type of guy that will punch him, and treats him accordingly.

There's an active and smart way to live, and there's an entirely reactive and thoughtless way.

peace

I'm a bit like Tomber as far as my beliefs go - IMO, the bible never opposed sorcery, it just only involves it being used for evil purposes. It's a matter of man-made fear and misinterpretation. I am a christian occultist. This is why I talk about God - He is the universe in my opinion, and I think he will forgive me in this case, since I'm defending my family.

I don't mean my PRINCIPLES as a light-wielder, I mean my DUTY - I use my powers in all cases to benefit people unless I deem it necessary to put it down - that's my duty. I'm only supposed to smack down evil spirits and people though, and I don't know this man enough to call him evil. I'm smashing him anyway because he did an evil thing and hoping that's within my jurisdiction.

That explains my side.

Monkman, my issue with my real father is him being controlling, not a lying, manipulative, sadistic and cruel a$%*#!* (something he isn't). I wouldn't hurt my dad because however much we may disagree on, he's my dad and he has the right to tell me what to do. What fathers DO NOT have the right to do is lie just to hurt other people; moral turpitude is bad.


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All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. - Voltaire
Behind every successful man stands a surprised mother-in-law. - Voltaire
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. - Voltaire
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Ethereal Sight   Specific But Harsh Curse?   Aug 31 2010, 11:09 PM
monkman418   Does anybody have any curses that are specific to...   Sep 1 2010, 01:05 AM
kaboom13   I recall you just made a post about trying to band...   Sep 1 2010, 02:09 AM
Ethereal Sight   I recall you just made a post about trying to ban...   Sep 1 2010, 02:18 AM
☞Tomber☜   Work with a demon. Bad advice? I know but why lect...   Sep 1 2010, 12:54 PM
kaboom13   Once again, as an individual who wishes to make ...   Sep 1 2010, 02:04 PM
Ethereal Sight   Once again, as an individual who wishes to make a...   Sep 1 2010, 02:35 PM
Ethereal Sight   Okay, can I just bring this back to the topic at h...   Sep 1 2010, 10:59 PM
Pyre   While I think you have the right to be angry at hi...   Sep 1 2010, 04:51 PM
Ethereal Sight   While I think you have the right to be angry at h...   Sep 1 2010, 05:36 PM
Vilhjalmr   I don't think words are ever worth fighting ov...   Sep 1 2010, 08:55 PM
monkman418   Yo ES, Not sure if it's kosher to quote fro...   Sep 1 2010, 09:47 PM
VitalWinds   Remove all of his fire element from his spiritual ...   Sep 2 2010, 02:36 AM
kaboom13   Remove all of his fire element from his spiritual...   Sep 2 2010, 02:42 AM
fatherjhon   Well that would be very effective, and rather amus...   Sep 2 2010, 01:05 PM
kaboom13   Honestly, if you rip their consciousness out of th...   Sep 3 2010, 01:46 AM
monkman418   Honestly, if you rip their consciousness out of t...   Sep 3 2010, 02:34 AM
fatherjhon   Honestly, if you rip their consciousness out of t...   Sep 3 2010, 12:26 PM
kaboom13   I haven't done something close to that for a...   Sep 3 2010, 05:57 PM
monkman418   I haven't done something close to that for an...   Sep 3 2010, 07:23 PM
fatherjhon   Any techniques for doing this? In theory, it mak...   Sep 3 2010, 08:21 PM
kaboom13   Intuitively, I'd say that fatherjohn's a...   Sep 4 2010, 04:35 AM
Reaper   I'm about as moral-shy as anyone, but I still ...   Sep 9 2010, 07:18 PM
monkman418   ...so did you end up making a curse? ...what happ...   Sep 12 2010, 08:44 PM
Ethereal Sight   ...so did you end up making a curse? ...what hap...   Sep 14 2010, 02:33 PM
Ex Lux   Cursing people is not a worthwhile endeavor with t...   Nov 11 2010, 02:21 AM
kaboom13   Interesting, are we talking about Buddhist karma...   Nov 11 2010, 08:52 PM

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