Us Church To Burn Qurans On 9/11, This is disgusting... Options

A Christian minister in Florida will burn copies of the Quran with his church on 9/11 this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100907/ap_on_...s/quran_burning

This is absolutely disgusting.

This post has been edited by monkman418: Sep 7 2010, 03:07 PM

Ah well I'm going to reply to all this as best I can. First to deal with what Vagrant said about all that good killing stuff being in the Torah/Old Testament, Jesus strictly upholds it:
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”-Jesus Matthew 5:17-18

Yes it is a frustrating position to take when there are "Christians" that murder doctors and gays. God is extremely punishing and does seem to leave a major part of dealing out that punishment to his people. I don't go around killing people but if God wanted something done and explicitly said it, I would do it. But I choose my religion based on the differences. It did not make sense that there had to be any act I physically had to do to go to Heaven. So I choose the only one that didn't require it. That's not the only reason but it is a big separation from all the others. Also pick it after you give it a shot. I really don't care what anyone says on this but if you do not give it a chance you really have no right to say it doesn't work for you. You have a right to not accept it or argue it but saying it is not right when Christian leaders explain again and again it is an undeniable subjective experience (Lewis, Bounds). That is how you choose a side. Why on earth would I stick to this faith when I see all the perfectly reasonable arguments against it? Not to be stuck up but it is not that you see something I don't but that I am seeing something you do not. If you give God/Jesus a honest one time fair shot at your heart and it doesn't work out then you have done enough and don't need to go farther. God will keep it, because He wants it so bad. You can even justify giving Him this chance by then ruling out forever Christianity. But that will not happen, because God is not going to pass that up. Maybe if you don't give your entire heart/mind/soul during the trial period but just honestly get down and pray. This is why many people become Christians after a breakdown. They need God. When you need something you don't hold anything back.

That is my challenge to anyone who is against Christianity. If it doesn't work out, then quit it you won't have lost that much but you will have gained a new perspective at the minimum. Religious tolerance is not something I like. Tolerance does not stem from religious passion. In that respect I understand the bombing of the towers. I don't like it at all and think it deserves much more than the weak attack we gave back, but that is all secondary. Passion does not equal ignorance. Faith does not equal ignorance. Religious intolerance yes... racial bigotry? He says nothing about race. White Muslims are just as wrong as Black or Brown or Blue ones.

I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts. ~Psalms 119:100
The Bible gives the potential for so much more development than anything else because it deals directly with communicating with God. I do several magic rituals daily for practice and growth along with working to strengthen my beginning astral traveling (thanks again for the tips Vagrant) and I can say from having direct experience with both that God has given me so much more. And it is harder. Magic is a walk in the park compared to what God demands. Magic is open to about any idea any lifestyle but to get the specific and many blessing of God a total lifestyle change is required. I understand not following Christianity because it is too hard (which Jesus came and made a whole lot easier) but not trying it because it is too easy is a mistake in case anybody though that.

How does burning Qurans convince someone who believes in the Quran that Jesus alone should be worshiped?-Monkman
I don't know exactly what he wants since I am not in the habit of Quran burning but if I took it up I imagine it would be a symbolic representation of something.

@NetherSpirit

I'm glad for the opportunity to discuss your opinions actually. Obviously you are not personally attacking me so go for it! Jesus did not change the Torah. He upheld it. He explained what it meant, how it was supposed to be used. He explained what God really cared for was the love and devotion of someone, not elaborate rituals. Obviously he wanted them but He explains that it is better to give God your heart than anything else at all. Jews may not accept Jesus, but Jesus explains the meaning that constant thought and daily application of the law should make apparent. I expect to see many Jews in Heaven to. Including Jesus.

I feel one of the main points for not burning the Quarans is flawed: that it should not happen because it would provoke retribution. I feel that is sort of like taking the long route from English to Science every day because a bully that picks on you is in your way. It isn't right. Burning Qurans is like saying "Hey I'm here and I'll do what I want, and this is what I think of you..." and flipping that person off. That is fine with me. Be bold. Take a stand. Do what you will but at least go about it with some passion.

Edit: also about Christians having a "holier than thou" attitude. Real Christians should not. God makes that clear but it is natural for people to act that way by accident when they have the complete belief that they are right and everyone else is wrong. I try to be tolerant, helpful, and avoid being rude but really I do think I am right and you are wrong. I try to go about it nice and not bring it up but you can't 100% believe this stuff and not think that. Christians have to be intolerant to some degree. I hope this makes sense like I mean it too.

This post has been edited by ☞Tomber☜: Sep 8 2010, 11:30 AM