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post Sep 8 2010, 11:23 AM
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I'm currently working at a care home for the elderly/blind.
I've been working for about 3 months an i can see my-self working their for about a couple of years.
I can do a little bit of improvised energy healing but I'm not practiced, one of the reasons for getting the job was to get a better idea of how to handle it.

At the moment I'd much rather keep anything i do as covert as i can, also safety is a big issue, it's been my experience that powerful stuff can disrupt delicate existing balances,
some residences (one of which is 105!) are clearly gifted individuals while others are clearly coping with old age quite badly.

Here is a list of the major illnesses I'm working with here;
Blindness- over half of the residence are entirely or partially blind.
Muscle weakening- when an old person stops being able to move by themselves it's hard to keep what mobility they have left, which makes my life harder!
Bone's- this one old lady creeks like 4 people grinding their teeth whenever she moves, it's clearly agony!
Memory- When this goes it really effects the persons ability to cope with everything around them, especially if they are blind.
Diabetes- about half suffer from type 2, it can cause so many other health problems i can't begin to relate them all.
Dementia- it's fascinating to get to know these individuals but very hard to look after them, the confusion they can feel is quite terrible.
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Obviously i can't cure all these, i would be a fool for thinking i could but I'm still going to try my best for them.
Tips? Ideas? I'm an industrious fellow an I'm sure with some time i could implement something quite far fetched.

When i started the job i thought i might be able to create some kind of ESP for the blind, i still think i could, but it's going to be a LOT of work.
Astral constructs designed to bestow easy ESP? that's the ticket but I'm still dubious as weather or not to include anything else while I'm at it..

All advice/comments welcome!

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post Sep 10 2010, 08:00 PM
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I'm a Massage Therapist so I am doing hands on work all the time. Getting verbal permission as being the only ethical condition to do energy work healing is not completely cut-and-dry. Let me explain before shouting at me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fie.gif) lol

One position is that the person's conscious mind may not wish energy healing, but the higher self does. In this case, the receiver will accept the energy work done. You can form the intent that if the energy is not freely accepted then it will be diverted into the earth.

All human interactions are an exchange of energy. If we talk, even exchange looks, touch, etc., we are exchanging energy. Normally it isn't a large amount of energy that is exchanged, but it does occur. In my practice, clients know from the pieces of paper up on my walls that I do energy work and that it is an option. They can ask or I can ask them what kind of treatment they want. But as I mentioned, touching another person entails an exchange of energy. I do a lot of touching during the day naturally. I'm told that I have 'healing hands' so even without my focusing on performing energy work I am doing some low-level energy work healing. I don't do any focused healing work unless I am verbally told to do so, or occasionally when their or my spirit guides tell me to do so. This isn't especially common but it does happen. But the question is always at what point am I treating the client using massage and at what point has energy work become the major part of the treatment? That is an issue that I have to deal with.

Energy work healing isn't limited to touch of course. Saying a kind word, smiling, listening attentively and validating what you hear are healing. Simply being a kind or spiritual person causes you to radiate good energy-- which can have a healing effect upon the people around you. Much of it is about having good intentions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/connie_mini_oldman.gif)


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post Sep 10 2010, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(Goibniu @ Sep 10 2010, 09:00 PM) *

All human interactions are an exchange of energy. If we talk, even exchange looks, touch, etc., we are exchanging energy. Normally it isn't a large amount of energy that is exchanged, but it does occur. In my practice, clients know from the pieces of paper up on my walls that I do energy work and that it is an option. They can ask or I can ask them what kind of treatment they want. But as I mentioned, touching another person entails an exchange of energy. I do a lot of touching during the day naturally. I'm told that I have 'healing hands' so even without my focusing on performing energy work I am doing some low-level energy work healing. I don't do any focused healing work unless I am verbally told to do so, or occasionally when their or my spirit guides tell me to do so. This isn't especially common but it does happen. But the question is always at what point am I treating the client using massage and at what point has energy work become the major part of the treatment? That is an issue that I have to deal with.


Goibniu,

Here the difference is that you are working explicitly as a massage therapist who practices energy healing. You are not covertly treating people who do not know that they are being treated, nor are you using any methods of which your clients are completely unaware you practice. As long as you display your credentials as an energy healer, I don't see any real dilemma in having some gray area between practicing your energy and massage work together insofar as they are intimately connected. Personally, if I went to a massage therapist who was also an energy healer, I wouldn't be shocked or offended if some sort of energy treatment was used in addition to or in tandem with the secular massage I was receiving.

I'm not going to comment on your receiving messages from your own or another person's spirit guide, as I don't use that paradigm and I don't have the right to interfere between you and the divine. That said (and I'm sure I'm not saying anything that you don't know or haven't considered), it's important for healers of all professions to ensure that their actions are made in the best interest of the client and not motivated on behalf of satiating their own desires to help. Good intentions to help are fantastic and should be there, but it's still about the healer if that's the only motivation and the client is left out of the picture. Based on your sensitive responses on this message board, I'd be the first to say that I think you are centered on your clients, but this is a very important point to think about and emphasize in this conversation regardless.

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post Sep 11 2010, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(monkman418 @ Sep 10 2010, 10:09 PM) *

I'm not going to comment on your receiving messages from your own or another person's spirit guide, as I don't use that paradigm and I don't have the right to interfere between you and the divine. That said (and I'm sure I'm not saying anything that you don't know or haven't considered), it's important for healers of all professions to ensure that their actions are made in the best interest of the client and not motivated on behalf of satiating their own desires to help. Good intentions to help are fantastic and should be there, but it's still about the healer if that's the only motivation and the client is left out of the picture. Based on your sensitive responses on this message board, I'd be the first to say that I think you are centered on your clients, but this is a very important point to think about and emphasize in this conversation regardless.


I don't think I was clear enough here, so let me say it again: spirit guides and access to the higher self aren't my paradigm, nor are they a universal paradigm. If decisions are being made about persons based on a religious paradigm that they neither accept nor believe in, then I very much question the motivations of the persons who would place their patients in that paradigm and then make decisions on their behalf without their consent.

Unless you can prove that you can communicate with spirit guides, and that spirit guides exist, it's better left in the realm of one's personal spiritual experience. I'm not going to intrude on anyone's personal connection with the divine, but it's very dangerous to assume that we have access to anyone else's spiritual progress or experience. Without their willing participation, we cannot bring ethically bring them into our paradigm.

Consider certain Christians that make all other groups a part of their paradigm, e.g. Muslims think they're godly but they're actually forces of the devil, et cetera. To take a less extreme example, I'm sure we've all met persons in the occult field that are continually working out some kind of karmic knot. Oftentimes, they'll involve us as part of a karmic knot from a past life that we don't know about and don't have access to; maybe they have to suck up to us in this life, or have the right to be an ass to us in this life, to make up for some series of past transgressions. And now I hear that you're both claiming access to someone else's higher self, and that you have such exclusive access to it that you can make health care decisions on another person's behalf? Why not just ask the church down the street from where I live? They'll say you both really want to convert to Christianity, but are actually held forces by the devil! What if your health care providers sat by your bed and prayed you'd be forgiven for your pagan (or whatever) ways and be sent to an Abrahamic heaven as you were dying? We can't make these kinds of claims for others, even with the best intentions, unless they are willing to take part. Otherwise, it's about the healer and not the patient.

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“We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special."
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Draw   Healing Advice   Sep 8 2010, 11:23 AM
Goibniu   I've taught taiji/ tai chi classes in retireme...   Sep 9 2010, 12:03 AM
Draw   Thank you, that's a good idea, I've been m...   Sep 9 2010, 07:30 AM
monkman418   one of the reasons for getting the job was to get...   Sep 9 2010, 09:50 PM
Draw   I begrudgingly agree with you, I'd much rather...   Sep 10 2010, 11:38 AM
monkman418   Your right, everyone should have choice, but the ...   Sep 10 2010, 03:55 PM
Draw   Goibniu, thats exactly wha i meen, i've done a...   Sep 11 2010, 10:10 AM
fatherjhon   If decisions are being made about persons based ...   Sep 11 2010, 06:34 PM
monkman418   I see no reason that the patient needs to be tol...   Sep 11 2010, 06:41 PM
Goibniu   I understand Monkman where you are coming from. I...   Sep 11 2010, 09:22 PM
monkman418   I like that this is a calm rational exchange of i...   Sep 11 2010, 10:59 PM
Draw   This is without doupt a far reaching subject, det...   Sep 12 2010, 04:14 AM
monkman418   Do you ask weather its OK to say hello before say...   Sep 12 2010, 10:00 AM
Draw   Your very right an i completely agree with you, i...   Sep 12 2010, 04:27 PM
Goibniu   Draw. A lot of the time we have people praying fo...   Sep 12 2010, 11:28 PM
Draw   Right, sober now.. I think the point i was trying ...   Sep 13 2010, 04:19 AM
Draw   Bollocks to all that, I've just been fired. Th...   Sep 17 2010, 06:47 AM
Goibniu   Sorry to hear that, but don't feel too bad. T...   Sep 17 2010, 09:58 PM
monkman418   Sorry to hear that, but don't feel too bad. ...   Sep 19 2010, 02:55 AM

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