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post Sep 8 2010, 11:23 AM
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I'm currently working at a care home for the elderly/blind.
I've been working for about 3 months an i can see my-self working their for about a couple of years.
I can do a little bit of improvised energy healing but I'm not practiced, one of the reasons for getting the job was to get a better idea of how to handle it.

At the moment I'd much rather keep anything i do as covert as i can, also safety is a big issue, it's been my experience that powerful stuff can disrupt delicate existing balances,
some residences (one of which is 105!) are clearly gifted individuals while others are clearly coping with old age quite badly.

Here is a list of the major illnesses I'm working with here;
Blindness- over half of the residence are entirely or partially blind.
Muscle weakening- when an old person stops being able to move by themselves it's hard to keep what mobility they have left, which makes my life harder!
Bone's- this one old lady creeks like 4 people grinding their teeth whenever she moves, it's clearly agony!
Memory- When this goes it really effects the persons ability to cope with everything around them, especially if they are blind.
Diabetes- about half suffer from type 2, it can cause so many other health problems i can't begin to relate them all.
Dementia- it's fascinating to get to know these individuals but very hard to look after them, the confusion they can feel is quite terrible.
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Obviously i can't cure all these, i would be a fool for thinking i could but I'm still going to try my best for them.
Tips? Ideas? I'm an industrious fellow an I'm sure with some time i could implement something quite far fetched.

When i started the job i thought i might be able to create some kind of ESP for the blind, i still think i could, but it's going to be a LOT of work.
Astral constructs designed to bestow easy ESP? that's the ticket but I'm still dubious as weather or not to include anything else while I'm at it..

All advice/comments welcome!

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post Sep 11 2010, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(monkman418 @ Sep 11 2010, 07:26 PM) *

If decisions are being made about persons based on a religious paradigm that they neither accept nor believe in, then I very much question the motivations of the persons who would place their patients in that paradigm and then make decisions on their behalf without their consent....Unless you can prove that you can communicate with spirit guides, and that spirit guides exist, it's better left in the realm of one's personal spiritual experience.... Without their willing participation, we cannot bring ethically bring them into our paradigm.

.... I hear that you're both claiming access to someone else's higher self, and that you have such exclusive access to it that you can make health care decisions on another person's behalf? ... What if your health care providers sat by your bed and prayed you'd be forgiven for your pagan (or whatever) ways and be sent to an Abrahamic heaven as you were dying? We can't make these kinds of claims for others, even with the best intentions, unless they are willing to take part. Otherwise, it's about the healer and not the patient.



Im sitting here nursing I sprained thumb so forgive me if I care less about spelling/grammar than normal, but i believe this its on a important issue, despite that we are all mostly in agreement

i get your point and agree with it in so far as forcing beliefs on others goes. And while I reserve a level of skepticism about talking to someones highterself (a point for another time) I also feel that there is a qualitative difference between someone who insists that you convert in order to give treatment or as in your other example someone praying to you to go to their heaven, and what Goibniu and Draw are talking about. Yes, they are preforming energy work on someone who may not be capable of deciding whether or not to opt in, but they did go for healing. True, they expect one kind -and get it- but then in the same vain they also get other types. "Energy work healing isn't limited to touch of course. Saying a kind word, smiling, listening attentively and validating what you hear are healing. Simply being a kind or spiritual person causes you to radiate good energy-- which can have a healing effect upon the people around you." Being of the opinion that we effect energetically everything and everybody we encounter anyway it seems a little extream to ignore, repress, or limit our effects simply because others are aware of it. True, as people who know its going on we have a responsibility to manage our interactions but here good intentions and careful application tailored to the person your trying to help will suffice.

And sweet buttery Eris knows I have had my share of people trying to incorporate me in their belief system, but a doctor who prays for my health irrespective of my religion is welcome (and I would think it is welcomed by others as well) in a similar way to how Goibniu gives one sort of healing then quietly and carefully gives another kind. I see no reason that the patient needs to be told, or that credentials are displayed. I'm odd in that I think help should not have to be asked for. If a healer sees something that he can fix without any major involvement or many possible complications an healer would be remiss in his calling to let the condition go on. But then I'm odd.



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post Sep 11 2010, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(fatherjhon @ Sep 11 2010, 07:34 PM) *
I see no reason that the patient needs to be told, or that credentials are displayed.


Umm, but why not tell the patient? I'm throwing out cases of comas, et cetera. What makes it so difficult to ask a person whether or not they want energy treatment? We're invoking the ability to communicate with someone's spirit guide to ask whether or not they want a treatment-- why not ask them in plain english?

...unless we're worried that someone might refuse treatment?

...or unless we're so worried that we'd be thought "odd" that we're going to protect ourselves at the expense of the patient's autonomy?

...or unless we don't care about what the patient wants to begin with...

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Draw   Healing Advice   Sep 8 2010, 11:23 AM
Goibniu   I've taught taiji/ tai chi classes in retireme...   Sep 9 2010, 12:03 AM
Draw   Thank you, that's a good idea, I've been m...   Sep 9 2010, 07:30 AM
monkman418   one of the reasons for getting the job was to get...   Sep 9 2010, 09:50 PM
Draw   I begrudgingly agree with you, I'd much rather...   Sep 10 2010, 11:38 AM
monkman418   Your right, everyone should have choice, but the ...   Sep 10 2010, 03:55 PM
Goibniu   I'm a Massage Therapist so I am doing hands on...   Sep 10 2010, 08:00 PM
monkman418   All human interactions are an exchange of energy....   Sep 10 2010, 09:09 PM
monkman418   I'm not going to comment on your receiving me...   Sep 11 2010, 05:26 PM
Draw   Goibniu, thats exactly wha i meen, i've done a...   Sep 11 2010, 10:10 AM
Goibniu   I understand Monkman where you are coming from. I...   Sep 11 2010, 09:22 PM
monkman418   I like that this is a calm rational exchange of i...   Sep 11 2010, 10:59 PM
Draw   This is without doupt a far reaching subject, det...   Sep 12 2010, 04:14 AM
monkman418   Do you ask weather its OK to say hello before say...   Sep 12 2010, 10:00 AM
Draw   Your very right an i completely agree with you, i...   Sep 12 2010, 04:27 PM
Goibniu   Draw. A lot of the time we have people praying fo...   Sep 12 2010, 11:28 PM
Draw   Right, sober now.. I think the point i was trying ...   Sep 13 2010, 04:19 AM
Draw   Bollocks to all that, I've just been fired. Th...   Sep 17 2010, 06:47 AM
Goibniu   Sorry to hear that, but don't feel too bad. T...   Sep 17 2010, 09:58 PM
monkman418   Sorry to hear that, but don't feel too bad. ...   Sep 19 2010, 02:55 AM

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