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Ethereal Sight
post Aug 29 2010, 04:18 PM
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Anybody else want to form a sort of magickal EPA? I've seen too much ridiculousness of non-magickal people attempting to peacefully resolve things which obviously cannot be resolved without some magick.

As magicians, wizards, witches... whatever the hell you call yourself, we are all tapping into the forces of the earth to use our magick. Whether you prefer summoning demons, selling souls to satan, smashing things with storm winds or stirring herbal poultices, we all use power from the earth to do what we do - whether the gods of it, the souls of the people on it, its own very components or things that we grow in it, we rely on the earth magickally - to exclude the very basic necessities of life (food, water, air) that it gives up.

As far as human forces like devlopment and legal hunting go, there's no reason to interfere - that doesn't require our help. However - slowing global warming and regulating weather patterns is something which normal people clearly have no ability to stop. Shall we band together and fight destruction or let the natural world go to hell around us?

As humans it's our problem and that makes it our duty to solve it. So will anyone join me on the way?


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"Take root in the ground, live in harmony with the wind, plant your seeds in the Winter, and rejoice with the birds in the coming of Spring." - Hayao Miyazaki (Sheeta from the film - Laputa: Castle In The Sky)
All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. - Voltaire
Behind every successful man stands a surprised mother-in-law. - Voltaire
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. - Voltaire
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post Sep 4 2010, 12:40 PM
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There already is a movement going on...and it is incredible.

People are waking up...en masse.

The old world is dieing and a new one is being born.



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post Sep 5 2010, 08:46 PM
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People used to worry about falling off the flat earth, as though all of our buildings were just hors d'ouevres on a tray fit for Titans. If they knew how many people lived in China, they might have argued for more people moving to France just to avoid tipping the balance and dumping civilization into the void.

The amount of carbon and numerous poisons thrown out by one modest volcanic eruption dwarfs the entire output of industrial civilization. I'm definitely all in favor of a higher level of ecological stability in commerce and industry, but I'm not going to be worried about Global Warming. If anything, it will create more rain for this desert where I live and thus save me the water bills for my lawn.

I strongly suspect that the current reduction of first-rate industry is fueled by an attempt to provide a slight competitive advantage for developing countries, since so much of our production depends on their labor and infrastructure.

The original EPA was designed as a way to arbitrate between industrial producers and the legal interests of physicians, developers, and others who might be upset about the presence of pollution and poisons. Keep in mind that the existence of the EPA allowed a lot of people to make a vast amount of money by demanding that everyone else abide regulations they supervise or suggest.

What specific problems would you choose as a focus for your EPA?
What would be the benefit for those involved?
What support would you choose?

I'm not interested in aiming a vague opposition at Global Warming.
I'm mildly disinterested in anything that does not require real commitment from myself and the others involved.
I'm all in favor of using magic in an organized way to accomplish that which money and power cannot.


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post Sep 6 2010, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE(Imperial Arts @ Sep 5 2010, 10:46 PM) *

People used to worry about falling off the flat earth, as though all of our buildings were just hors d'ouevres on a tray fit for Titans. If they knew how many people lived in China, they might have argued for more people moving to France just to avoid tipping the balance and dumping civilization into the void.

The amount of carbon and numerous poisons thrown out by one modest volcanic eruption dwarfs the entire output of industrial civilization. I'm definitely all in favor of a higher level of ecological stability in commerce and industry, but I'm not going to be worried about Global Warming. If anything, it will create more rain for this desert where I live and thus save me the water bills for my lawn.

I strongly suspect that the current reduction of first-rate industry is fueled by an attempt to provide a slight competitive advantage for developing countries, since so much of our production depends on their labor and infrastructure.

The original EPA was designed as a way to arbitrate between industrial producers and the legal interests of physicians, developers, and others who might be upset about the presence of pollution and poisons. Keep in mind that the existence of the EPA allowed a lot of people to make a vast amount of money by demanding that everyone else abide regulations they supervise or suggest.

What specific problems would you choose as a focus for your EPA?
What would be the benefit for those involved?
What support would you choose?

I'm not interested in aiming a vague opposition at Global Warming.
I'm mildly disinterested in anything that does not require real commitment from myself and the others involved.
I'm all in favor of using magic in an organized way to accomplish that which money and power cannot.


Alright so apparently global warming is of no concern to you people - who cares if DC, NYC and LA all sink beneath the ocean, you get free lawn care!!! And best of all, since you're not checking your greenhouse gas fumes it's going to be raining carbolic acid!!! Well isn't that just peachy?! Now you can forget the water bill, you just have to pay for pH balancers!! No biggie... But since this seems to irrevocably be the case despite the lack in logic (a volcanic eruption does emit more CO2, but the environment is equipped to deal with volcanic eruptions - not volcanic eruptions AND industry. Additionally, volcanic eruptions happen so rarely that it's hardly even significant).

I would probably form divisions and put a head at each division to make a council of sorts - one to head global warming, one to head weather control, one to regulate ecosystems, one to regulate aquatic pollution and another to harry people committing vile acts against nature (HARRY, not kill or harm). Something like that. Haven't quite got that far, I'd need enough people first.

Hmmm... a healthy planet with significantly less of an environmental problem would probably be up there... practicing your magick never hurts... and you can be vindictive towards BP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I wouldn't facilitate a payment system or something, but the group itself would provide the above things. I'd also set up a method of communication for the people involved in the group so that they can contact each other - so Tomber can learn his Astral Projection, I can learn my Candle Magick, etc. In short, knowledge, experience and a healthy planet.

Explain what you mean by what support? I don't quite grasp the question.

It would require a commitment to do stuff, I just wouldn't say "if you join you have to be active from this time to this time and you have to join for this amount of time and contribute this much." The "department heads" would get their cases and then spread them out as they saw fit according to the strengths and weaknesses of the people in their sections.

It's a magickal government!!!!

Which led me to more ideas.

Once I have the initial department heads, we'll draw up a sort of group constitution and find impartial people who aren't a part of the active group who we run controversial things by to make sure they're not against said constitution - they're our supreme court. All of the members as a whole excluding the department heads can make up "congress" - the legislative branch. It's the US government without a president and all about magick, put simply.


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"Take root in the ground, live in harmony with the wind, plant your seeds in the Winter, and rejoice with the birds in the coming of Spring." - Hayao Miyazaki (Sheeta from the film - Laputa: Castle In The Sky)
All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. - Voltaire
Behind every successful man stands a surprised mother-in-law. - Voltaire
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. - Voltaire
Illusion is the first of all pleasures. - Voltaire

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post Sep 14 2010, 02:40 PM
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So, this never addressed the question. Is anyone interested?? Yes/no???


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"Take root in the ground, live in harmony with the wind, plant your seeds in the Winter, and rejoice with the birds in the coming of Spring." - Hayao Miyazaki (Sheeta from the film - Laputa: Castle In The Sky)
All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. - Voltaire
Behind every successful man stands a surprised mother-in-law. - Voltaire
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. - Voltaire
Illusion is the first of all pleasures. - Voltaire

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Ethereal Sight   Anybody Else Want To Start An Organization?   Aug 29 2010, 04:18 PM
Pyre   I think your right when you say that people with m...   Aug 29 2010, 07:52 PM
Ethereal Sight   Without a significant amount of people with magic...   Aug 29 2010, 07:58 PM
Pyre   Well I'm all for that, but like you I'm ra...   Aug 29 2010, 09:45 PM
Ethereal Sight   Well I'm all for that, but like you I'm r...   Aug 29 2010, 10:55 PM
monkman418   If nothing else, casting (something) to make sure ...   Aug 30 2010, 12:03 AM
Ethereal Sight   If nothing else, casting (something) to make sure...   Aug 30 2010, 12:08 AM
Pyre   If nothing else, casting (something) to make sure...   Aug 30 2010, 05:42 AM
☞Tomber☜   I think your right when you say that people with ...   Aug 30 2010, 11:01 AM
Ethereal Sight   Oh and by the way I think global warming due to h...   Aug 30 2010, 08:13 PM
☞Tomber☜   Not to derail your thread but I wasn't joking....   Aug 30 2010, 09:26 PM
monkman418   Not to derail your thread but I wasn't joking...   Aug 30 2010, 09:35 PM
Ethereal Sight   Not to derail your thread but I wasn't joking...   Aug 31 2010, 09:17 AM
kaboom13   What makes you think we're not doing anything....   Aug 30 2010, 10:24 PM
☞Tomber☜   Well after taking this off topic I kinda should he...   Aug 31 2010, 02:16 PM
Ethereal Sight   Well after taking this off topic I kinda should h...   Aug 31 2010, 10:43 PM
monkman418   Another disaster in the gulf today, and now I read...   Sep 3 2010, 01:10 AM
Draw   Not sure how bothered i am about climate-change, t...   Sep 3 2010, 04:24 AM
Darkmage   The problem that I have with organizations, or any...   Sep 3 2010, 07:27 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   And how do you know that such a thing does not pre...   Sep 14 2010, 09:29 PM
Ethereal Sight   And to be entirely honest, I do not think you are...   Sep 15 2010, 01:52 PM
valkyrie   ok yeah i read this thread, and to tell you the tr...   Sep 15 2010, 04:16 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Thanks for that.... because you definitely know m...   Sep 15 2010, 04:57 PM

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