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post Feb 7 2007, 07:27 PM
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Are there any modern (as in still living) world renowned LHP practitioners? I like what Phil Hine is for Chaos Magick are there any for the LHP?

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post Apr 15 2007, 05:09 AM
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Greetings!
I'm not sure that I agree with you Aleph. It has been my experience while here on this Forum to encounter many who flock to the LHP as opposed to RHP. Younger people tend toward this as they are still in a formative aspect in their lives (development of self, ego, etc.) which leads them to find themselves delving into practices that accentuate solidification. They are ever mindful of their sexuality and the need to accumulate. After all, romanticization of such things as Vampirism etc. is very moderne... But I also find that this way of thinking about LHP/RHP very misleading. It's like dropping a gray filter over the 'problem' and not recognizing that Magic knows no limitations. We develop throughout our lives as intellects. It is an oversimplification (...LOL, speaking of oversimplifications!...) to try to categorize ones life (path) by subgrouping under these titles...IMHO! As I've gotten (inevitably) older I find that certain material things are no longer important, my thoughts run more to 'WHAT'S NEXT?' and that my views of dispercion into godhead become more pronounced. You will find that ANY path that finds you so totally immersed as to not see some merit in the other aspects of thought as to be ultimately destructive. The trancendence of ego doesn't necesarily mean RHP nor does sex magic consign you to LHP. When we worship at the Altars of Excess we are courting the stagnation of ourselves and it is that very stagnation that leads to the falling into the abyss.
People on either path fail in their magic because of a host of reasons...one is laziness and laxity of intention! "do you know of any way that I can have a successful evocation of Umpity-Squat without the use of candles...books...incense...study...meditation...any effort at all...including PATIENCE...???" "why doesn't my spellcasting lead to anything?" the lists are legion. I like this one..."would you please tell me in step by step detail how to make a servitor?" Dear Gods! Then, if you actually acquiesse to this plea you will hear "...but it is inconvenient for me to do [this] or [that], are there any substitutes for doing those things?" Aaaargh! Here, on an occult Forum, on the Internet, they don't know how to research something...? *sigh* I've spent over fourty years studying the subject and am under the distinct impression that I know less than I did at my inception! I still waffle back and forth between aspects of LHP and RHP, not willing to become fixed in that 'paradigm' (gods, I hate that word!) So concludes a rant (I apologize) within a decent discussion of LHP and RHP. I hope that my misarticulations haven't muddied the waters and/or missed the mark? Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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Greetings!
I'm not sure that I agree with you Aleph. It has been my experience while here on this Forum to encounter many who flock to the LHP as opposed to RHP. Younger people tend toward this as they are still in a formative aspect in their lives (development of self, ego, etc.) which leads them to find themselves delving into practices that accentuate solidification. They are ever mindful of their sexuality and the need to accumulate. After all, romanticization of such things as Vampirism etc. is very moderne... But I also find that this way of thinking about LHP/RHP very misleading. It's like dropping a gray filter over the 'problem' and not recognizing that Magic knows no limitations. We develop throughout our lives as intellects. It is an oversimplification (...LOL, speaking of oversimplifications!...) to try to categorize ones life (path) by subgrouping under these titles...IMHO! As I've gotten (inevitably) older I find that certain material things are no longer important, my thoughts run more to 'WHAT'S NEXT?' and that my views of dispercion into godhead become more pronounced. You will find that ANY path that finds you so totally immersed as to not see some merit in the other aspects of thought as to be ultimately destructive. The trancendence of ego doesn't necesarily mean RHP nor does sex magic consign you to LHP. When we worship at the Altars of Excess we are courting the stagnation of ourselves and it is that very stagnation that leads to the falling into the abyss.
People on either path fail in their magic because of a host of reasons...one is laziness and laxity of intention! "do you know of any way that I can have a successful evocation of Umpity-Squat without the use of candles...books...incense...study...meditation...any effort at all...including PATIENCE...???" "why doesn't my spellcasting lead to anything?" the lists are legion. I like this one..."would you please tell me in step by step detail how to make a servitor?" Dear Gods! Then, if you actually acquiesse to this plea you will hear "...but it is inconvenient for me to do [this] or [that], are there any substitutes for doing those things?" Aaaargh! Here, on an occult Forum, on the Internet, they don't know how to research something...? *sigh* I've spent over fourty years studying the subject and am under the distinct impression that I know less than I did at my inception! I still waffle back and forth between aspects of LHP and RHP, not willing to become fixed in that 'paradigm' (gods, I hate that word!) So concludes a rant (I apologize) within a decent discussion of LHP and RHP. I hope that my misarticulations haven't muddied the waters and/or missed the mark? Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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gmcbroom   Modern Lhp Practicianers   Feb 7 2007, 07:27 PM
bym   Michael Bertiaux, Monastery of the Seven Rays....I...   Feb 7 2007, 07:35 PM
Enochian   Ok he is a lucefarian and he practices remote view...   Feb 8 2007, 07:19 PM
gmcbroom   Interesting. So there isn't many public ones....   Feb 9 2007, 09:13 AM
NecroReaper   The LHP itself is not as illustrious in the modern...   Feb 12 2007, 11:24 PM
Wezzard   I quite like Ford's (Luciferian Witchcraft) de...   Mar 28 2007, 06:54 PM
Firephoenix   I quite like Ford's (Luciferian Witchcraft) d...   Apr 20 2009, 10:18 AM
Aleph   I agree with the idea that the stigma attached to ...   Apr 14 2007, 08:13 PM
Aleph   That’s a well thought out post, bym. I suppose I w...   Apr 15 2007, 10:48 AM
redbreast   Yes, interesting points being put forward here. I...   Apr 15 2007, 02:08 PM
bym   Greetings! As far as more exposure...my 'e...   Apr 15 2007, 03:00 PM
redbreast   Okay, so.. What is LHP spirituality? Is there a s...   Apr 16 2007, 06:48 PM
redbreast   Yes, I'd also agree with the others' state...   Apr 16 2007, 06:57 PM
redbreast   By the way, does anyone here ever purchase from Fi...   Apr 16 2007, 07:08 PM
DarkGoddess   bym is quite right. Ritual flagellation can...   Apr 20 2007, 09:15 PM
bym   Absolutely! btw, beatings, flagellation, etc. ...   Apr 16 2007, 08:25 PM
redbreast   Yes, of course, you're right there. By the wa...   Apr 17 2007, 12:36 AM
Venger_Satanis   i don't care which path you follow... celebrit...   Apr 24 2007, 12:53 PM
Frater526   93! What about Michael Aquino or the Schrecks...   Jun 23 2007, 03:16 PM
Jesse Miller   Do a search on Michael Ford.. or go to www.Lulu.co...   Nov 25 2007, 12:46 AM
Neshamah   I really like Ford's Liber HVHI, which is a st...   Jul 23 2008, 12:21 PM
Neshamah   I'd like to add that Kenneth Grant's works...   Aug 7 2008, 07:55 PM
Vilhjalmr   I have no problem being selfish. Seriously, do p...   Apr 21 2009, 02:53 AM
Wezzard   This question of just exactly whathe "self...   Apr 21 2009, 10:29 AM
Ankhhape   Greetings everyone, In my understandings The Fal...   Apr 21 2009, 06:00 PM
esoterica   superb post, ankhhape   Apr 22 2009, 07:15 AM
termsof   superb post, ankhhape That's because it...   Jun 14 2010, 12:10 PM
Hermetic668   Are there any modern (as in still living) world r...   Jul 25 2009, 01:11 AM
Kath   Frankly, I think that in our current age, the inte...   Jun 13 2010, 03:50 PM
esoterica   i am an occultist, and a published author, but i...   Jun 14 2010, 11:26 AM
esoterica   the post being referred to (shame on you lazy chil...   Jun 14 2010, 01:11 PM
Kath   I'm not a fan of monotheism, or the overt dual...   Jun 14 2010, 02:27 PM
imaginos   One of the reasons of lacking well known LHP pract...   Jul 27 2010, 10:46 PM

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