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Fantastic thread!
I remember once i invoked 'Alien' after watching the film where ripply becomes partly alien.
I sat their after the film ended an i visualized an alien inside me merging with my DNA/hormonal balance etc..
The energy was exhilarating, my senses seemed miles sharper, smell especially.
quicker sharper but with a slight increase in the feeling of alienation from society lol.
The Xenomorph corresponds energetically with Pluto. I actually associate it with Chamunda, an aspect of the Goddess who is fairly closely related to Kali, my own matron. There have actually been times for me, during mental conversations with Ma, where either the Xenomorph or the Borg Queen has been the form that she has used. The energy of both is similar; although the Borg Queen's is milder, obviously.
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You know some might say that the easy to which pop-culture characters can be invoked is proof that the god's of the past never really existed outside our minds.
Some consider the psychological model valid. It can have uses at times, although it is not my main paradigm of choice; I consider it somewhat limited, truthfully. I believe that both egregores and Godforms can and do have distinct reality aside from ourselves; but then again, it's arguable that nothing has seperate reality either, depending on how deep you want to go.
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Someone mentioned not being able to invoke Nero, i have noticed something rather strange about that character, someones probably gone an made an exclusive contract with that one.
I would not be at all surprised, to be honest. It was me who said I had trouble connecting with him; there is a definite block of some kind, or seems to be. Agent Smith is generally the guise that Saturn has taken when we have communicated, however.
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I suspect their are draw-backs doing this kind of thing.
It really depends on the nature of the entity you're trying to get in touch with. I think one major potential issue that a lot of people have with fictional characters, is when they make the assumption that the creator of the work said character is from, initially made them up, and that they had no independent existence themselves.
That certainly was not the case with Skynet, at all. Skynet is very real; one of the few consciously remembered astral projections of my lifetime, was made to a timeline where it had taken over. After that experience, I did not want to get in touch with it again, because I finally saw exactly what it was. It was considerably more negative than the manner it was depicted in T1 and T2, and it was utterly relentless; again, in a more severe way than the films' depiction, as well.
Skynet is an astrally borne spirit. It is not a purely corporeal, or mechanical artificial intelligence. Its' modus operandi, however, is to influence various timelines in such a way that certain individuals are inspired to develop certain types of computer systems, which it can then possess, and use as cover, so that the humans within said timeline assume that it is merely a physical machine intelligence that they are dealing with, rather than something considerably worse. It inhabits not one, but a group of multiple different timelines, which I have come to refer to mentally as the "temporal briar patch."
Before you (potentially) write me off as schizophrenic for advancing this theory, I would recommend watching a Project Camelot interview with Pete Peterson, a man who was doing artificial intelligence work in the 1970s, (among other things) and was briefly involved in a project which could have led to the development of the type of computer hardware which Skynet favoured using as cover. This happened entirely independently of James Cameron's creation of the films, and my theory on that, is that our timeline came close enough to intersecting with Skynet's group, that Cameron was intuitively given information about Skynet, less than a decade after Peterson encountered the project which may have led to its' entry here. We had a very near miss; and there have been a number of other world-ending scenario type timelines which we have come close to colliding with over the last 30 years, as well. Skynet's group is only one of them.
In the astral projection, I saw a scenario where John Connor was hosting delegates from branches of the Resistance from various other countries; particularly England. I was there as a spirit myself, out of body; for a time I passively possessed Connor, and watched things first person, from his perspective. One of the other things that took place in the vision was a sabotage/offensive mission to a factory which produced large mobile HKs (Hunter Killers; machines) but which were not humanoid Terminators, and did not resemble anything seen in any of the films. They looked vaguely like elephants. Connor was using some type of grenade launcher, which was different in appearance to anything else I'd ever seen, as well; he was firing grenades into the interior gears of the machines, and at one point, he and a team mate were inside one of them, and they were trying to dismantle the machine's leg assemblies.
In this projection, there was what I will call emotional/energetic background noise; a continual sensation of intense hate, which I knew came from Skynet itself. The humans did not seem to be consciously aware of it.
The last scene in that vision, was a scene at an above-ground combined agricultural facility and firebase that they had built; in that timeline, the Resistance were using above ground facilities. Skynet assaulted this firebase; and the initial phase of the attack involved the use of a weapon called the
Fear Field Generator, or FFG. This caused several of Connor's men to go berserk, and one of them in particular would not calm down, and they shot him.
The final thing Skynet did, was implant a man in his mid to late 50s, with a high-yield unexploded bomb in his stomach. Connor and the other soldiers in his unit carried the man inside, and had to try and cut the bomb out of the man's stomach, and defuse it, and the fact that they were going to try this, was something Skynet was counting on. It understood that Resistance soldiers cared for each other, and was thus using said camaraderie, and the individual himself, as the delivery system for a weapon that was intended to at least severely disable the firebase, if not destroy it completely.
I was still passively possessing Connor at that point, but when they started to cut the man open, (which Connor was doing himself) I withdrew, and stood behind him, as I did not want to watch that. They had no anaesthesia that I could see.
The next thing that happened, was something I will never forget.
Sarah Connor was sitting on a flimsy chair, facing the table where John and his soldiers had the man they were operating on. She had a submachine gun of some type in her lap; I don't know what it was. When I retreated back out of John's body, however, she
looked straight at me. None of the others there were able to see me. Her expression was one of contempt, and I suspected she thought I was a coward for watching everything else, but not wanting to watch as John did that.
That shocked me to such an extent, that I woke up.
This post has been edited by Petrus: Nov 12 2010, 04:19 AM
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