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monkman418
post Jan 18 2011, 11:15 PM
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It has been said by the philosophers that God is dead. Yet Satan lives.

It occurred to me yesterday that many people are more deeply affected by their fear of black magick, are more convinced by the possible reality of 'demons', and more influenced by the perceived powers of "satan," than they are affected by another mainstream or off-beat spiritual system.

Case in point, I know atheists who laugh at the idea of a "God" or other spirits, but who become very afraid at seeing a copy of The Goetia or The Satanic Bible. I also know Catholics who don't take their "religion" seriously, but who take "evil black magick" very seriously; one's prayers may be completely ineffective, but be sure that anything incanted by mean Mr. Crowley or Anton Lavey and their followers will be sure to have real outcomes.

The dynamics of deliberately using the threat of black magick, to gain worldly influence aside, I'm very interested in what this means about us as spiritual seekers who grow in a climate where these factors are often true. For if Satan has all power in the world, and can be relied upon to answer at the worshipper's beck and call by our power to fear, feel, and thus invoke him, is Satan then not God?

"...there is an old parable which relates how the hound that had tempted man the whole length of his perilous journey, devoured him on the Summit of that Mystic Mountain; and how that Ancient DOG was indeed GOD himself." (Temple of Solomon the King).

...would a rose by any other name smell just as pungent?

...especially if the black magician tricks himself into following God!

In sum though, the question remains...where does the pied piper lead if he is followed? I look forward to your responses...

p.s. This would be more an example of a "Theistic" sort of demonology or Satanism than otherwise.

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“We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special."
--- Stephen Hawking

Therefore, God is a monkey.

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post Jan 31 2011, 03:35 PM
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I see some assumptions in this discussion that no one has mentioned.

First, do all of you believe that Firth was wrong in saying that any spirit you evoke can have no greater power than you have?

Second, making analogies between mundane and occult actions. Mundane weapons are anonymous. A magickal attack forms an energetic link; I've used that in responding to attacks with great success. Human, elemental, demonic, deistic, whatever; it has built into it the unique resonance of the originator and I've never seen that successfully hidden.

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monkman418   Black Magick Musings...   Jan 18 2011, 11:15 PM
Vilhjalmr   Case in point, I know atheists who laugh at the i...   Jan 19 2011, 03:49 PM
Dancing Coyote   RE: Black Magick Musings...   Jan 20 2011, 12:05 AM
Lichdar   I think it is generally believed that demons are m...   Jan 27 2011, 06:35 AM
☞Tomber☜   ^ subtle promises? they are very VERY clear really...   Jan 27 2011, 09:39 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   ^ subtle promises? they are very VERY clear reall...   Jan 27 2011, 09:52 PM
☞Tomber☜   ^ fair enough   Jan 28 2011, 03:50 PM
Waterfall   Hmm... Beelzebub: You get an endless stream of wi...   Jan 29 2011, 03:06 PM
monkman418   The next night you awaken to sounds of splinteri...   Jan 29 2011, 03:53 PM
Waterfall   Yes, the story follows the popular idea of "d...   Jan 30 2011, 12:16 PM
monkman418   Yes, the story follows the popular idea of ...   Jan 30 2011, 03:28 PM
Lichdar   I understand that the demons of the Goetia do inde...   Jan 30 2011, 11:42 PM
Vilhjalmr   Consider this analogy: a fortress, no matter how...   Jan 31 2011, 12:41 PM
monkman418   A magickal attack forms an energetic link; I...   Jan 31 2011, 06:47 PM
Waterfall   Could you explain this a little bit more? How do...   Feb 1 2011, 06:12 PM
monkman418   Can you feel the "flow"? It's basic...   Feb 2 2011, 07:17 PM
Waterfall   Thank you for the detailed explanation. I am t...   Feb 3 2011, 12:29 AM
monkman418   Something else. I'm not talking about the ast...   Feb 5 2011, 11:42 PM
Waterfall   Cool, thank you for this explanation. I have the...   Feb 7 2011, 04:46 PM
☞Tomber☜   Can you feel the "flow"? It's basic...   Feb 8 2011, 10:52 PM
Waterfall   I think I know what you are referring to and it c...   Feb 9 2011, 09:10 PM

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