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monkman418
post Jan 18 2011, 11:15 PM
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It has been said by the philosophers that God is dead. Yet Satan lives.

It occurred to me yesterday that many people are more deeply affected by their fear of black magick, are more convinced by the possible reality of 'demons', and more influenced by the perceived powers of "satan," than they are affected by another mainstream or off-beat spiritual system.

Case in point, I know atheists who laugh at the idea of a "God" or other spirits, but who become very afraid at seeing a copy of The Goetia or The Satanic Bible. I also know Catholics who don't take their "religion" seriously, but who take "evil black magick" very seriously; one's prayers may be completely ineffective, but be sure that anything incanted by mean Mr. Crowley or Anton Lavey and their followers will be sure to have real outcomes.

The dynamics of deliberately using the threat of black magick, to gain worldly influence aside, I'm very interested in what this means about us as spiritual seekers who grow in a climate where these factors are often true. For if Satan has all power in the world, and can be relied upon to answer at the worshipper's beck and call by our power to fear, feel, and thus invoke him, is Satan then not God?

"...there is an old parable which relates how the hound that had tempted man the whole length of his perilous journey, devoured him on the Summit of that Mystic Mountain; and how that Ancient DOG was indeed GOD himself." (Temple of Solomon the King).

...would a rose by any other name smell just as pungent?

...especially if the black magician tricks himself into following God!

In sum though, the question remains...where does the pied piper lead if he is followed? I look forward to your responses...

p.s. This would be more an example of a "Theistic" sort of demonology or Satanism than otherwise.

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"It sometimes strikes me that the whole of science is a piece of impudence; that nature can afford to ignore our impertinent interference. If our monkey mischief should ever reach the point of blowing up the earth by decomposing an atom, and even annihilated the sun himself, I cannot really suppose that the universe would turn a hair.” --- Aleister Crowley

“We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special."
--- Stephen Hawking

Therefore, God is a monkey.

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post Feb 8 2011, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Waterfall @ Feb 1 2011, 08:12 PM) *

Can you feel the "flow"? It's basic to energy work.


I think I know what you are referring to and it can be frustratingly hard to distinguish that from my mood/feelings/whatever. But I agree.


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Expect nothing, or you will get caught up in the future and not pay attention to the present. Just do the practice diligently, do it because you enjoy it, do it because you believe in it. Don't wait for results, don't wait for it to happen.

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QUOTE(☞Tomber☜ @ Feb 8 2011, 11:52 PM) *

I think I know what you are referring to and it can be frustratingly hard to distinguish that from my mood/feelings/whatever. But I agree.

The simplest way I know is to practice one of the modern systems of chi control. Look through "New Energy Ways" by Bruce or "Quantum Touch: The Power to Heal" by Gordon and practice that system. The sensation is unmistakable and once you have sensory feedback conscious control is easy.

Getting back to Monkman's original thread, I would like to know if all of you believe that Firth was wrong. I've always assumed she was right and worked at developing my own abilities instead of depending on spirits/entities to follow my commands. Reading Imperial Arts work and the postings in the Necronomicon section I see that at least most of you believe otherwise. Have you had experiences that lead you to believe that you can command entities more powerful than you are? Have you tested your own abilities in comparison to the spirits?

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monkman418   Black Magick Musings...   Jan 18 2011, 11:15 PM
Vilhjalmr   Case in point, I know atheists who laugh at the i...   Jan 19 2011, 03:49 PM
Dancing Coyote   RE: Black Magick Musings...   Jan 20 2011, 12:05 AM
Lichdar   I think it is generally believed that demons are m...   Jan 27 2011, 06:35 AM
☞Tomber☜   ^ subtle promises? they are very VERY clear really...   Jan 27 2011, 09:39 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   ^ subtle promises? they are very VERY clear reall...   Jan 27 2011, 09:52 PM
☞Tomber☜   ^ fair enough   Jan 28 2011, 03:50 PM
Waterfall   Hmm... Beelzebub: You get an endless stream of wi...   Jan 29 2011, 03:06 PM
monkman418   The next night you awaken to sounds of splinteri...   Jan 29 2011, 03:53 PM
Waterfall   Yes, the story follows the popular idea of "d...   Jan 30 2011, 12:16 PM
monkman418   Yes, the story follows the popular idea of ...   Jan 30 2011, 03:28 PM
Lichdar   I understand that the demons of the Goetia do inde...   Jan 30 2011, 11:42 PM
Vilhjalmr   Consider this analogy: a fortress, no matter how...   Jan 31 2011, 12:41 PM
Waterfall   I see some assumptions in this discussion that no ...   Jan 31 2011, 03:35 PM
monkman418   A magickal attack forms an energetic link; I...   Jan 31 2011, 06:47 PM
Waterfall   Could you explain this a little bit more? How do...   Feb 1 2011, 06:12 PM
monkman418   Can you feel the "flow"? It's basic...   Feb 2 2011, 07:17 PM
Waterfall   Thank you for the detailed explanation. I am t...   Feb 3 2011, 12:29 AM
monkman418   Something else. I'm not talking about the ast...   Feb 5 2011, 11:42 PM
Waterfall   Cool, thank you for this explanation. I have the...   Feb 7 2011, 04:46 PM

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