QUOTE(Darkmage @ Feb 9 2011, 06:47 PM)
Monitoring brain activity isn't the same as saying 'So and so is thinking about ice cream. $person happens to like strawberry best.' We know what consciousness is, but we have no idea how it works or even how to measure it with any degree of real accuracy.
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what I would say is that these things will eventually be measurable. In fact, emotion already is, to some extent
QUOTE(Waterfall @ Feb 9 2011, 08:52 PM)
Exactly. Vilhjalmr, you're assuming the materialists are correct, that brain=mind. Consider:
Someone has Alzheimer's. Their brain is damaged. Their mental functioning is impaired. Brain equals mind.
Someone recovers a past life experience, which is validated by physical evidence (see Sanderson's work). There is no way their brain could have obtained that information. Brain does not equal mind.
See the problem? We have two apparently contradictory sets of evidence. If both are valid then our concepts are incomplete and we can't make a valid theory of how brain/mind works.
That's a good point, but I have never seen any evidence that would indicate to me that brain != mind - so I do not have two contradictory sets of evidence. Sanderson is unknown to me, although I haven't Googled yet.
This post has been edited by Vilhjalmr: Feb 9 2011, 09:38 PM