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Mchawi
post Apr 11 2011, 04:09 PM
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Which is the best form or school of Qi Gong, one that works well with a persons development as a magician?

Have been practicing yoga for a while now and its benefits are astounding, wasnt keen on Qi Gong as the slow movements seemed to go against my more firery temperament but after much back and forth regarding the benefits of the two, yoga and qi gong, someone said it... that Qi Gong teaches you how to manipulate energy, yoga dosent, at least not at all in the same way. Sounds glaringly obvious but it swayed my opinion which was one for the marriage of yoga and magick as the perfect matrimony, being able to open physically blocked channels and assume new positions marking the progress of development etc.

Surprised to read just how many variations of Qi Gong there are, some involving elements such as sound into things and so I thought I'd ask and get a better opinion on which form would go well with Magick, am looking into the Alchemy of Baguazhang...

Think this should be in the Eastern section, forum has been sloooooow recently, not even sure if anyone is around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/face08.gif)

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post Apr 15 2011, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(Mchawi @ Apr 15 2011, 01:08 PM) *

Yetzirahic in that way as it deals with the ruach... I would suppose that a strong Qi Gong practitioner has a strong energetic foundation and would do well on the astral. Geometrically the Tree of life can be drawn in such a way to show that Yetzirah encompasses six seprioth, Hod, Yesod, Netzach, Tiphareth, Geburah and Chesed which is interesting (am in 2=9 at the moment) .lol.


Blah... I new I should have let someone who has work with CM more recently than 2002 answer that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I take your word for it because that went over my head.


QUOTE(Vilhjalmr @ Apr 15 2011, 02:03 AM) *

Can you tell me more about the distinction between these types of Qigong? That is, are schools traditionally grouped under one of those three headings or something like that?


As others have said, there is not much difference between them and if you start with one you can move to the others. That is why Vagrant says that martial chi gong is applicable to magick; chi gong is a set of skills that helps you work with chi in whatever form with which you happen to work. All that is required is a knowledge and familiarity with a type of chi and you can apply the skills towards whatever goal you choose. Becoming familiar with the types of chi is some what haphazard if you are not introduced to it by someone who know how it isolate that form of chi. Chi is sometimes usefully categorized by vibration and by where it is, where its going and what it is doing. I have only studied Bagua chi gong so I will leave it to others to explain other martial forms. Bagua chi gong deals with lower vibrational energy and sending it though "jing paths" (what I understand as deep energetic pathways inside the muscles and bones) that is the sort of thing you use for fighting. The health aspects of bagua chi gong come from lower daintien work so that chi gathers there and eventually starts the grand circulation. Other forms of health chigong from bagua chi gong are better described as "Dao Yin" which is a therapeutic form of energy work where by the body's deficiencies (mostly inability to do the physical movements of the system) are corrected by harmonizing movement, thought, and breathing.

Health chi gong focuses on particular locations in the body where chi gathers to do some particular task such as the liver, lungs and what have you. Its goal is to promote a healthy physical body by correcting chi flow deficiency and excesses.

Spiritual chi gong is mostly academic for me. Aside from becoming more aware of how I connect with the universe, the only part I have directly experienced, you are supposed to be able to "birth a spiritual embryo". This is roughly equivalent to becoming enlightened, dieing, then havering your "Buddha soul" enter nirvana. That is the very start of the very end of spiritual chi gong. What I have experienced is the beginning of the beginning I neither know or can imagine the things in between.

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