Anyone Do The Test? Options

Wondering if anyone tried the proof of principle experiment of magickal/psychokinetic effect I posted back in December 2010 in the "Real Ultimate Power" thread in the fight club and, if so, what are your results?

28 views, no replies. Should I continue or is this thread irrelevant for everyone?

28 views, no replies. Should I continue or is this thread irrelevant for everyone?

I think those that simply disbelieve - not skeptics, mind you, but those who willfully deny - will not attempt this test, and those that already practice possibly have better things to do. It does seem, though, that no one who has viewed the thread has attempted the experiment.

I for instance don't consider the experiment very useful; I believe in the efficacy of magic and use it on a regular basis.

Did you?

peace

I think those that simply disbelieve - not skeptics, mind you, but those who willfully deny - will not attempt this test, and those that already practice possibly have better things to do. It does seem, though, that no one who has viewed the thread has attempted the experiment.

I for instance don't consider the experiment very useful; I believe in the efficacy of magic and use it on a regular basis.

Did you?

peace

You're correct, but I'm a bit disappointed. Reading through past threads I noticed that every few months the same topic comes up; "can you do anything", "what can you do", "real ultimate power" and so on. These all are questions by those who either haven't tried magick, for some reason haven't gotten repeatable results or, as you said, willfully deny its existence. The test, properly performed, answers the question.

Did I do the test? It's a repeat of my very early experience with psychokinesis. Your mention of headaches from over-training in another thread is familiar and is one reason why the sessions are so short.

You're correct, but I'm a bit disappointed. Reading through past threads I noticed that every few months the same topic comes up; "can you do anything", "what can you do", "real ultimate power" and so on. These all are questions by those who either haven't tried magick, for some reason haven't gotten repeatable results or, as you said, willfully deny its existence. The test, properly performed, answers the question.

Did I do the test? It's a repeat of my very early experience with psychokinesis. Your mention of headaches from over-training in another thread is familiar and is one reason why the sessions are so short.

I personally think that these threads pop up, sometimes, because someone is waiting to hear someone way "Why yes, just the other day a raised a poor man from the dead, I sleep levitating, and two of my very best friends are ghosts!" There can sometimes be a sense of disappointment in magic itself for the unappreciative and those who don't understand the principle of leverage. They figure doing a spell to make Sally get all moist for you is perhaps exciting, but of little utility, and not entirely impressive in itself.

So, they're looking for someone to confirm for them that vast an incredible acts may be mastered through the practice of magic, without really considering what such things would be really good for. This is because they're constantly assaulted by fantasy magic, and get too much of their magical education from books on "how to do spells", not "how to practice magic" - and then the books on the latter subject require too much discipline so it's better to talk about the theory and practice half-heartedly than to actually spend all the time in single pointed focus, or master their habits, or admit that they are flawed individuals who could do with some real self-improvement. Then there's the getting up at odd hours and cutting this and such a plant at this and such a time, and/or waiting for specific conditions before you can actually get down to the fun part - the spell, of course - and then wonder why magic only seems to work some of the time when logically, it would seem, you should be able to just do the same things and get the same results.

For these people, your test is too complicated, takes too much effort, and ultimately doesn't really grant them anything of true utility but a possible demonstration that weird things can sometimes happen if you want them to, maybe.

There is no simple demonstration of magic that will genuinely show anyone that there is a magical power to be wielded. If you do magic for them, how do they really know you did anything? if you give them instructions, well it's too complicated to really accomplish and probably it's all in my belief that it will work and well... I really don't care to get up at 2am when jupiter is rising after not having eaten much for four days, and geez your magic is really inconvenient, instead I'll just skip to the part with the blue candle, and i'll just draw the funny seal on some copier paper with a marker, and its much easier to just read this psalm off a piece of paper than to try memorizing these verses.

You either have the gumption for magic, or you don't. If you do, it'll work every time, and if you're wise it'll work the way you want. If not, eh, it's probably not worth the already minimal effort, except for girlish entertainment.

peace