I've been having this debate with a friend of mine for years an years. It's a shit because i respect his diligence to the truth but he fails to see the effect of his learning on his subsequent learning.
It's simply quite hard to perform magic on him or things he is perceiving I resent him for not seeing the true effects of his very being and all the beings around him. All the spiritual aspects to our history an evolution are ignored due to the weight of his learning upon his narrowed perception, something most of us suffer.
Science DOSE have quite a religious quality, people learn loads of stuff an build their ego's upon it's back, then get vicious when their life's knowledge is undermined. where it differs is that the 'scientific principles' are all focused to know things that apply universally. while the magical equivalents of the 'scientific principles' are equally concerned with knowing things that apply individuality (maybe more so) the individualistic science and the existential science are meant to be equal, i think a lot of scientist types fail to see how un-empowering their 'existential' side is on their 'individualistic' side when they put so much faith in what they learn from other peoples experiences at he expense of their own. Scientists crave discovering something new but they are still reliant on an amalgamation of all the perceptions of their piers, it's not the right vibe for miracles but works quite well for partial accelerators.
Vilhjalmr it seem's this is really frustrating you so i suggest you find a very haunted house or an obviously enchanted forest and conditionally bless the heck out of whatever spirits are present for a decent weird thing to occur. enough to convince you. alone. Unless you are afraid that your application of intent would corrupt your own perceptions an thus be invalid evidence?
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