QUOTE(Vilhjalmr @ Jul 25 2011, 02:12 AM)
Did you arrive at this on your own, or read about it? It's interesting to see you say this, because this is the way that another person - someone supposedly able to do telekinesis at will - said that he does it. If you didn't read about this, it's interesting that both people would arrive at the same method.
Perhaps I will give telekinesis another shot. I tried various methods for many hours a day, for perhaps a week... gave up after I talked to a few other people who had been trying for years and done nothing, except psi-wheel. The fact that almost everyone can move a psi-wheel but almost no one ever graduates past it makes me suspect psi-wheels of moving due to other forces.
If you could do it reliably, I think telekinesis would be the most important ability of all. The idea of moving something with only mind power is perhaps the most provocative and mind-blowing aspect of psionics/magic - most of the rest could conceivably be written off as coincidence or psychology.
I arrived at this on my own. Who else said this? Is it someone who has written anything I could read? I wonder where else we match up.
I can move a psi-wheel under glass when I get properly 'zoned' as it were. No touching the glass, against a surface that precludes any wind, static electricity (beyond what would already be present in the foil), or external forces, with the only observable reasonable explanation being that it is being moved willfully. It took me, I want to say, around six months to get it to wiggle, another month or so to get a full turn. I have been more focused on meditation practice recently, so perhaps I will try again soon to see if my more flexible mind is able to get to that point more quickly now - but at the time it took more than an hour of focus and meditation to get very little gain out of it.
I think that if you're willing to give up everything else, then it is probable that you could achieve macro-PK in a reasonable time frame. However, I think that it's the kind of thing that the harder to try to get to it, the farther away it is. Direct effort just doesn't really pay off here. Instead, I think the idea is to look at is like basically all of the spiritual masters have explained it - a side effect of expanded conscious awareness. Perhaps when you attain to a certain degree of spiritual awareness, you gain access to these sorts of paranormal abilities, but the question every skeptic seems to laugh at is, when you do reach that awareness do you not also accept the pointlessness of PK 'showing' as well? "Well it would validate the claim that spiritual awareness grants these abilities." If you attain that degree of awareness, you probably don't care about validation anymore. "It would make others want to attain spiritual awakening." No, it would make others want to develop PK by being spiritual.
And don't underestimate psychology in magic. The power of consciousness is limited only by psychological traps - overcoming those issues unlocks a vast potential within us. And coincidence is the engine of some of the most massive and world-shaking changes and discoveries of history. Psychokinesis, on the other hand, though reportedly employed by many a sage, prophet, and magician, doesn't seem to have seriously impacted the course of humanity.
peace