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Harkadenn
post Sep 2 2011, 05:09 PM
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Just read the first two books of "Abramelin the Mage".
Amazing books.

After reading these books I feel completely lost and like all thse time and reading of other magick books have been in vane.

These books teaches with authority just like in the bible how to be very careful with the wrong magical books such as making pentacles or invoking certain spirits or shouting strange names out loud, and believe in other gods or writing strange patterns or names.

As the author of the book "Abraham" during his journey to find his mentor "Abramelin" saw with his own eyes all the false and treachery false arts (whom looked correct but in reality where not).

Then in the second book we have many pages explaining how retire and prepare the altar area for the angels and having certain items and oils and such and doing fasting and such... during 6 months and be loyal to the sabbath days. Until the holy guardian angel manifest it's presence unto you.

One never calls the archangels or ever do any of the LBRP or BRH or any others as mentioned in most of the magickal books.
Strangest part is how the "Golden Dawn" used these books for their studies and yet they seem to follow other teachings.

I feel a little confused and concerned with everything now, I hope one of you can help me out here...

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post Sep 3 2011, 02:41 AM
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Sometimes Occultists forget that for most people, time is linear... just keep in mind that 'The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage' was written a few hundred years before the LBRP or BRH were created.

I don't think your other research was in vain but I do believe it's a mistake to take any single book on magick as the gospel per se.

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post Sep 3 2011, 07:50 AM
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I wouldn't say it's a mistake, as long as you consider that the 'one book' may be the one book for you and not for everyone.

Do consider the source of the work itself - the author was not, it would appear, a pagan for instance. Religions are also full of the suggestion that every other religion is false, and that the followers of those other religions will find themselves judged at the end of times.

The power in a system like that one is simply a matter of disciplines and convictions. If you are willing and able to commit, then I'm certain it will deliver what it promises. The basic problem is that this isn't because it is the 'one true book', but that none the less its requirement is that you develop the faith and conviction that this is so. Two hundred years ago that would have been easier.

In any case, it is a rather exclusive text, there are others which simply refer to 'the magician' as the operator, but Abramelin's books specifically tell the reader that if you're going to work this book you need to put everything else down. Consider how you feel about the book, and if you really sense that you have made a powerful connection with the work in this way, then go for it! Just remember that the power we gain through conviction, we can lose when we lose conviction.

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post Sep 4 2011, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(Vagrant Dreamer @ Sep 3 2011, 09:50 AM) *

I wouldn't say it's a mistake, as long as you consider that the 'one book' may be the one book for you and not for everyone.

Do consider the source of the work itself - the author was not, it would appear, a pagan for instance. Religions are also full of the suggestion that every other religion is false, and that the followers of those other religions will find themselves judged at the end of times.

The power in a system like that one is simply a matter of disciplines and convictions. If you are willing and able to commit, then I'm certain it will deliver what it promises. The basic problem is that this isn't because it is the 'one true book', but that none the less its requirement is that you develop the faith and conviction that this is so. Two hundred years ago that would have been easier.

In any case, it is a rather exclusive text, there are others which simply refer to 'the magician' as the operator, but Abramelin's books specifically tell the reader that if you're going to work this book you need to put everything else down. Consider how you feel about the book, and if you really sense that you have made a powerful connection with the work in this way, then go for it! Just remember that the power we gain through conviction, we can lose when we lose conviction.

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That was certainly a good and complete explanation.

Thank you very much, and I'll meditate on the book and find what my decision will be.

I'm currently reading at the moment:

Kybalion
Modern Magick 12 lessons in the high magickal arts
Chicken Kabbala

I just wanna make sure whatever I do is nothing that in the end is a wrong path, the book of Abramelin the way it was written shows that basically every other magic tradition was wrong and satanic... sighs.
But then again and like you just told me, it's an old book written with a very religious point of view.

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