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post Jun 20 2005, 07:38 AM
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Here's a challenge. What elementals would you associate with elements outside of the four classic Greek elements? What would you imagine to be a Solar Elemental, or a Wood Elemental, Metal Elemental, Ice Elemental? First, imagine. Then, try to evoke and see if what you call upon matches what you've imagined.

I associate foxes with the Solar Element, personally. Wolves with the Lunar Element. The Fair Folk with the Wood Element. Strangely, I imagine a Crane being linked to the Metal Element (don't ask me why, I have no idea).


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post Nov 12 2011, 10:41 PM
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As an update - I still use a basic 4 fold elemental model (earth, water, air, and fire)
However, I no longer inter-associate those four for elucidating each other in the method of: water of earth; air of earth; fire of earth; etc...

I have learned the hard way that, for me, establishing such inter-association does not work - because it triggers a squirrely maze of increasingly convoluted and meshed meanings, the endless iteration of which stirs up such a muddy mess in the sub-conscious/awareness that symbolic integrity deteriorates and magickal effectiveness significantly weakens.

I noticed the problem when it got to the point of seismic semantic drifts, where I increasingly could not to keep the associated meanings clear and consistent with the elemental symbolism in everyday recall. For a while, I just dismissed it as the early onset of starting to have "Senior Moments". But when I got around to doing an elemental evocation to check on why an earth ritual seemed to backfire, the entity that appeared in the double tetrahedron looked like the love child of The Blob crossed with a bucket of barf. Needless to say, that brought any further working involving the elements to an immediate halt. I had to exhaustively evoke them all, banish, mop out the slop and oozing mess they all left behind in the elemental zone of my microcosm, and basically start all over again summoning Primes from The Absolute Pattern, binding them, invoking them, etc... Since I had become aware of the consequences and paying proper attention, I caught it early on when it started happening again and discovered what I explained above that I learned above. The hard part was having to clean them all out (just to be sure) and go through the re-establishment ritual rigamaroll yet again.

That was it for me right there.
No more inter-associated elemental elucidations for this Mage.

However, the alchemical combinations of four elements to form eleven compounds (six combinations of two elements - four combinations of three elements - and one combination of the four elements) works not only well, but even better than before because I always had the other part of the model in operation causing the entire system to decompose into hideously living cosmic compost.


The one upside to all this was that all the clean-up and re-establishment ritual work required taking the traditional "Elemental Weapons" offline due to taint - and I was able to retire them at long last. Even though I knew that it was gooey glop from the system glitch that caused them to be less effective than they otherwise should have been (which I hate to admit should have been my first warning sign, but I knew ignored it because I loved ceremoniously swinging around the ol' Weapons), I wanted to shift from using them, to using something a bit more more elegant to match finally polishing my sphere (circle) casting technique.

I am currently working on considering ideas for what I am going to enchant to take their place that will Git 'Er Done!

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Rin Daemoko   Alternative Elementals   Jun 20 2005, 07:38 AM
UniOne   You're not off on your idea... Actually, the ...   Jun 20 2005, 09:49 AM
UniOne   (Actually, all of your elemental matchups are Nati...   Jun 20 2005, 09:50 AM
Rin Daemoko   :shocked: They are? I had no idea! I just im...   Jun 21 2005, 06:00 AM
Frater F.A.M.E.   Um..just curious, but how were Native Americans ...   Jun 22 2005, 08:44 AM
Acid09   First to diffine alternitive elements- Metal (eart...   Jun 23 2005, 02:30 PM
Rin Daemoko   Very nice! :D   Jun 24 2005, 09:57 AM
Rin Daemoko   Digital Elemental: A blue rabbit ;)   Jul 21 2005, 07:24 PM
green_pheonix   I have a different interpretation of the void elem...   Jul 21 2005, 10:28 PM
blackstaff   Then, if you want to have some fun, you can have w...   Jul 25 2005, 07:02 AM
9-2-2   There is an elemental for everything. There are CD...   Aug 2 2005, 12:21 AM
Praxis   I use a basic four-fold elemental model. The four...   Aug 11 2005, 07:32 PM
WhiteRaven   I see 6 elements and everything a subset, or combo...   Aug 12 2005, 04:47 PM
The White Chaos   I see 6 elements and everything a subset, or combo...   Apr 17 2006, 12:30 AM
plainsight   Earth = Solid Water = Liquid Air = Gas Fire = Pl...   Jul 25 2006, 01:51 PM
Eroscupidonamor   In the russian modern esoteric schools they consid...   Aug 16 2006, 07:17 AM
ClockKeeper   Very interesting stuff.   Nov 8 2006, 05:59 PM
VitalWinds   I like the whole Earth Water Air Fire thing largel...   Nov 13 2011, 08:51 PM
Praxis   Darkness as an element? Do tell! Wait a minut...   Nov 13 2011, 09:37 PM
VitalWinds   Well, I'm still working on it, but, symbolical...   Nov 13 2011, 10:21 PM

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