Vagueness In Spirituality, Anyone else notice this Options

I have been noticing a common practice with anything "spiritual", be it one of the many yogas or occult groups or religions. They are all vague about what joining or practicing will do/accomplish/benefit. "Make you life better" sound nice but it is not much to go on. Perhaps I am spoiled, having come from academia where everything is laid out with what is taught, why and what you can get out of the course.

Recently while talking to several priests, Taoist and Buddhist, about empowerment, classes and what I can expect, I was met with almost dismissive vagueness and tired cliches. After talking with them I am just as uninformed as when I started - having no better idea of why such and such a thing is done or what it enables. Looking back, I find a lot of my current practice where not explained, and lacking that it took much longer to gain anything from them, only after long practice did I have enough knowledge to judge their worth. Indeed many that look promising turned out to be useless to me after months of work.

Vagueness in spirituality is necessary to some existent, but with a little application the people who run these orders, and organizations could explain things clearly.

This post has been edited by fatherjhon: Apr 5 2012, 10:06 PM

Part of the problem is the necessity of this vagueness. If you have read or are informed about the process of buying/selling or in this case telling/accepting then you know they are hitting you with a truthful part and that truth part is that vagueness is undoubtedly part of the way we live. On the other hand part of the deal is to simply buy into the fact of 'faking it till you make it' which is, to be honest just, just partly true when dealing with matters such as these.

However, for those of us who are seeking a truer and more personal level of discipline and power we must look at many of these teachers with a very guarded skepticism. Those that fail to offer not only lucidity but fluidity in their methods are probably not worth taking much from on a whole, though these people may have nice ideas from which occultists might steal. It comes from being removed from the source of the power.

I think it was a few years ago when I talked to someone about a website made by some of those 'occult masters' who would be willing to accept every student for a mere price of yadda yadda per month. In any specialized field, teachers that fail to identify which people need a higher level of communication and knowledge to which to progress are a failure unto themselves. Handing out generic advice and expecting each person to bite is not only foolish but detrimental for not only the teacher but the student and the other students who could have gained from one acolytes rise to prominence.