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fatherjhon
post Apr 5 2012, 10:04 PM
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I have been noticing a common practice with anything "spiritual", be it one of the many yogas or occult groups or religions. They are all vague about what joining or practicing will do/accomplish/benefit. "Make you life better" sound nice but it is not much to go on. Perhaps I am spoiled, having come from academia where everything is laid out with what is taught, why and what you can get out of the course.

Recently while talking to several priests, Taoist and Buddhist, about empowerment, classes and what I can expect, I was met with almost dismissive vagueness and tired cliches. After talking with them I am just as uninformed as when I started - having no better idea of why such and such a thing is done or what it enables. Looking back, I find a lot of my current practice where not explained, and lacking that it took much longer to gain anything from them, only after long practice did I have enough knowledge to judge their worth. Indeed many that look promising turned out to be useless to me after months of work.

Vagueness in spirituality is necessary to some existent, but with a little application the people who run these orders, and organizations could explain things clearly.

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Cosmic consciousness is devoid of diversity; yet the universe of diversity exists in notion....
We contemplate that reality in which everything exists, to which everything belongs,
from which everything has emerged, which is the cause of everything and which is everything....
The light of [this] self-knowledge alone illumines all experiences. It shines by its own light.
This inner light appears to be outside and to illumine external objects.

-Sage Vasishtha

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Igisi
post Apr 6 2012, 07:20 PM
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one kind of has to learn to take pieces of whatever is given to them in different spiritual paths according to how well it resonates with them. i personally have found no one area of spiritual teachings that i can just take in whole.

i was once following a new age group consenses for many years and this movement was loaded with the vagueness you speak of. the leader of this group would go from one flighty concept to another with absolutely no explantion as to what these concepts really meant or how they had come by these ideas. i was surprised after a while at how many would willingly go along with this person without calling them out on what they were saying. i stopped following this leader and the group quite a while ago after noticing how "vague" these teachings were but the strange thing is at the beginning of it all i actually got alot out of this movement that is still with me today.

ive often thought about how in the new age movement as a whole they go about throwing around concepts of light and oneness but give no real teaching on what these things are or how to achieve them and i feel if i ever wanted to become a teacher that i could impart in great detail how to gain awareness of these, bypassing the vaguensss altogether. but no, ive no desire to be any kind of wayshower, at least not now while im still trying to get fullly submerged in what ive been gifted with. maybe some day.

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Igisi

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