Asansa, The Lotus Position, Impossible? Options

Have been sitting in asana for a good few yers now, basically corss legged and yet after all this time I still can't manage to sit properly for more than a few minutes. Can basically do a 1/4 lotus, not a full half, leg on upper thigh but its fustrating. Sat comfortably the other day and realized that its the essence to a good practice, all that shifting and shuffling during the MP or general meditation just dosen't cut it... throws everythnig off. Main thing I'm trying for now is a full lotus, a stable position that keeps the back straight and energy flowing for an undisclosed period of time.

Can anyone here do the full lotus? How did you achive it and how long did it take?

Peace
.M.

There are various effective asanas. Franz Bardon , the author of many Hermetic texts including Initiation into Hermetics, suggested a throne asana sitting supported in an armchair. I prefer this . I find that the lotus crosses limbs and cuts off energy flow the back of a chair can maintain a relaxed but erect spine without being uncomfortably contorted.

Here are some other postures;
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Here are some links regarding altering asana to effect trance;

Positions of Prayerful Meditation Conducive to Development of the Energy Body
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http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/ind...opic,627.0.html

One suggested series of steps to begin Metaphysical Pathworking
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FLASH CARDS Visual Aids for Basic Magick Energy Work
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/ind...pic,4073.0.html