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Chorozon
post Apr 3 2013, 09:40 AM
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Why hasnt anyone filmed the summoning of a demon to physical manifestation? Ive heard dozens of stories of people seeing the demon before them, speaking to it, and it being as real as anything else in the room. I dont buy the whole "oh you just feel the demons presence and talk to it in your head"...sorry but that sounds like the evokation didnt work and your imagination is just playing around.. Im a skeptic but i believe in demons ONLY because of many first hand accounts people who DONT practice any kind of magic have had and have nothing to gain by telling me their experience...but it seems the people who DO practice evokations dont physically see them...and for those who have..Well why hasnt anyone filmed one?

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post Jun 22 2013, 06:13 AM
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Magician can see and hear entities with his spiritual senses. Normal people usually can't 'cause of their bonds to physical world. To make yourself able to see entities, you need special magical training, that will bring you to higher level. These are basics of ceremonial magick.

I have never experienced physical manifestation of any evocated entity. I doubt it's possible. Grimoires say that you can evocate spirit to visible form. There's nothing about materialization. I once made evocated spirit visible (for other person that isn't magician) on physical plane. It's possible by using black mirror or smoke of the incense (it looks like the entity floats "behind" smoke/mirror). That person could clearly see the same character as I did. And I didn't mention what kind of entity I was summoning, so that person had no idea of entity's look. Also with my friends, we keep working on astral plane (pathworking) together. And we can say who's doing what, without using any normal communication. That doubts those were just images made of imagination.

You can't simply make a video with ghost. Everything made of physical matter, that people can see, is just a picture of reflecting light. Cameras and all that stuff work the same way. Since entities have no material form that reflects light, they can't be filmed. Magician works in darkness, where isn't any (or much) light. That makes his physical sight useless, so his mind automatically activates his "inner eyes". It's normal for everyone, to see "non-existing" images in darkness, isn't it?

But anyway, forget all that. It doesn't matter if you can see entities or hear them outside of the head. There is another proof that they exist - they work. Even if you got bad day, so you can't see or hear anything spiritual, you still can order entity to work for you. Here I got in mind just one phrase: "Succes is your proof!"

Being sceptic isn't bad. I think it's even better, 'cause it makes you use logic. To practice magick you don't need belief. You need confidence. Don't belive in entities, be sure that they exist!

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