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greenlantern153
post Jul 16 2013, 04:47 AM
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After much introspection, thought and meditation, I've come to the conclusion that wisdom is the highest virtue. I define wisdom as knowledge of what is most beneficial / correct / effective in a particular situation. I realize there are other definitions, but this one suits my thinking best.

Regardless of whether or not you agree (that wisdom is the highest virtue), what Spirit or God would you suggest working with if you wanted to tap into wisdom?

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post Aug 7 2013, 04:36 AM
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Your definition seems more like pragmatism or a whole sale bundle deal on improving all virtues, whatever those might be.


Yeah I know. I was purposefully looking for a definition of wisdom that would be as pragmatic as possible, since there is a lot of "sacred" knowledge out there that is no more useful than a simple sigil. I'm not trying to throw out the mystery and depth of hidden knowledge though, I'm just looking for the most useful knowledge first and labeling that as wisdom.

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There are dreamers, storytellers, idealists, and such, who are all just as valuable to the human spirit as the 'practical' folks who get their hands dirty in the daily grind.


In hindsight, I think my posts in this thread reflect more on how naive I am to magick and spiritual concepts at this stage. Remember, I was only introduced to my first few magickal texts at the beginning of this year, so I'm very much still a beginner, in terms of both experience and knowledge, and the mindset that those cultivate in a practitioner. I think I should be slower to post next time. But, I'm definitely into the actual practice, not just the theory and the legends. I have been getting some successful results, hopefully on par with what you would expect from a beginner. I think what's really holding me back at this stage is that there isn't an order or group I can join. There is an OTO here, but it's about a 100km away from me. On top of that, I'm the only practicing magician I know. So I don't really have someone I can discuss magickal concepts with over coffee. Practicing in isolation kind of sucks.


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QUOTE(Green Lantern @ Aug 7 2013, 06:36 AM) *

I think I should be slower to post next time. But, I'm definitely into the actual practice, not just the theory and the legends. I have been getting some successful results, hopefully on par with what you would expect from a beginner. I think what's really holding me back at this stage is that there isn't an order or group I can join. There is an OTO here, but it's about a 100km away from me. On top of that, I'm the only practicing magician I know. So I don't really have someone I can discuss magickal concepts with over coffee. Practicing in isolation kind of sucks.


No no! Post as you think of questions. You hit an interesting topic on the head this time, next time you might get another.

Aside from posting hear I talk to most everyone about magick. Magick is largely a mater of recognizing a spiritual, or at least another, dimension to life one can interface with, then thinking real real hard about it. So long as you talk about the substance rather than the terminology used to describe it, most people with a spiritual leaning and half a brain are willing to talk frankly. The hardest part is finding ways to say things about magick without the short hand. Walk up to someone and babble about sigils is going to get you a cold shoulder. In the middle of a conversation on something else start talking about intent and fine tuning what you want. Admittedly somethings are easier than others. The grimoires and classical black books are harder but the authors know that they would need to hide from others and likely would not be able to pass on their knowledge in person. The Key and other books like it contain everything you need.

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Yeah I know. I was purposefully looking for a definition of wisdom that would be as pragmatic as possible, I'm just looking for the most useful knowledge first and labeling that as wisdom.


Personal experience is the most pragmatic form of wisdom because its lived and internalized. If you want to work with a God, the process of internalizing that wisdom is different from a spirit animal. Normally Gods make you work for it while a spirit animal will all but beat you over the head with it. If your going to use a spirit animal its good practice to make sure you do not all ready have one before you start to attract another. I have never seen a griffin but there are stories of people embodying concepts that have no physical manifestation so it might be possible. Just a mater of getting its attention.


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Cosmic consciousness is devoid of diversity; yet the universe of diversity exists in notion....
We contemplate that reality in which everything exists, to which everything belongs,
from which everything has emerged, which is the cause of everything and which is everything....
The light of [this] self-knowledge alone illumines all experiences. It shines by its own light.
This inner light appears to be outside and to illumine external objects.

-Sage Vasishtha

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