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Ilmatar
post Mar 27 2005, 07:26 PM
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“Sorcery has no bounds or limits, except those that are put in place by the practitioner. It is the Study of Raw Power and often of Dark Energies. It stems from an Inherent need to delve into the deepest and darkest parts of One’s Self and although it may be dangerous and painful to Realise your Primal fears and desires it is well worth the effort”.

I was somewhat disappointed but not surprised to see so little interest in this category. I know that information is hard to find but so is anything that is worth the effort.

Although this is not the Path for everybody I hope that at least some of you are interested.

I am therefore inserting a basic description.


EDIT - text reduced to normal size. Mediocracy 01/04/2005

Sorcery is the need to study the deepest and darkest parts of ones self. Through understanding their primal desires, obscure passions, and emotionality the practitioner than draws on his or her own Raw Power. Most Sorcerers adopt an aggressive stance in their magical works. They tend to ignore whether or not they use their power for “good” or “evil, and often dismiss such concepts from their lives altogether.

Sorcery cares not what it changes.... it simply changes

Central to sorcery are Balance and Polarity within ones self, this can then be transferred to the world around us. The sorcerer is an expert at bending things to their own will. The most common way of achieving this is by using Twilight – this is a realm of the mind which is characterized by its extreme distortive properties, roiling energies, and occurrences bizarre enough to shock even the calmest, most accepting individuals. The practitioner can make changes in this shadow world that will then manifest themselves in the everyday world.

The unique art known as Sorcery is one which knows no bounds and has no limits, except those which are allowed by the user.

Another aspect of Sorcery is Glamour. This grants its wielder immense powers of persuasion. Ultimately it changes the way People Perceive the Person that is using it. It can Instill fear and create harmony. Oh and if you wish to temporarily change your appearance it can be useful to.

Hope this was some Help

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post Jun 27 2005, 04:21 AM
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This is all very interesting! Could it be that I have at long last discovered the source of sensible discussion on the Internet?! *touches wood*. Next stop, El Dorado and the Fountain of Youth!

As to definitions of sorcery, My understanding of it is as a broad term encompassing many different sub-sets of magic(k), and denoting something like: "Causing change, in accordance with will, by nonphysical or indirect means, through the use of correspondances and directed to a specific purpose for the benefit of the worker in the mundane (mortal) plane." (This sets it apart from traditional Ceremonial Magic and spiritual alchemy, which seek to purify and improve the 'soul' or 'pneuma' of the worker on other levels; most Neopagan and especially Wiccan worship rites, which seek to benefit the Earth or the Universe as a whole entity; and deciding to get out of your armchair to make a cup of coffee, which is an act of magick according to Crowley's definition but clearly not what we are talking about here.) To take specific examples, a Voodoo hex would be an act of sorcery, as would a modern New-Age candle-burning ritual to bring success in a job interview, as would an Ancient Egyptian fertility rite - although all of these workings may (or may not) involve other factors, such as worship, petition to the Gods, psychological and 'self-help' techniques and so forth. (Of course, they are only truly acts of sorcery to the extent that they work.) I'm not aware of any sources which define sorcery as a rank or grade of practitioner. Many languages have words for magicians who practice techniques of shamanism or witchcraft for 'black' purposes (or at least, very dark grey ones), and this is often translated into English as "sorcerer"; see Aradia, Gospel of the Witches by Charles G. Leeland for one example of this, and Chronicle of the Guayaki Indians by Pierre Clastres for another, but this is obviously to over-simplify matters immensely.

On to controlling forces by means of sorcery; and perhaps the above has already indicated the nature of the key which I am about to suggest. Just as mundane forms of energy need to be transformed, transported, transmuted and contained in order to turn them into work, so does 'magical' energy. One of the first laws of magic is that "like affects like" (which is, interestingly, one of the most significant conclusions of modern quantum mechanics, but that, I feel, is another story). Thus, we can cause Change A to occur to Subject X by causing Change B to occur to Subject Y, insofar as B and Y are similar to A and X. To illustrate with another example: say I have a friend who has a headache, and wants me to help him to ease it. I could do so nonmagically, by fetching him an asprin and drawing the curtains for him to have a nap. I could stand there willing, with all the energy of my being, for him to get better - although my experience has always been that the only effect of this will be to give me a headache too. Or I could do it sorcerously, through correspondances: I might, for example, take an apple, which is associated in many cultures with the head, and cleanly cut into it, removing any blemishes or bad spots, with the intent that they affect the 'bad spots' in my friend's own head. Remembering my astrology, it occurs to me that Aries is associated with the head, so I perform the working at the Hour of Aries which I find in my handy Sorcerer's Almanack (the compilation of which has become so much easier since the arrival of the internet!). This leads me on to Aries' association with Mars, so I may use an iron knife and a red apple, and an anointing mixture containing oils of pepper and pine. (Obviously, not if it's a stress-induced headache!) The more correspondances build up, the more the apple (Subject Y) has 'in common' with my friend (Subject X); the more 'like' each-other they become, and the more I can affect him through the likeness. Of course, I've deliberately chosen a benign example which makes it sound like a species of home medicine or kitchen-witchcraft (it's not, since I'm not offering him any lotions or potions or direct 'treatments' of any kind; we don't even have to meet during the entire process), but the basic principle goes all the way back to the highest and most exquisitely complex workings of hermetic alchemy and ancient miracles. Workings of great power can be completed at a seemingly insurmountable distance using this basic truth. Him that has eyes, let him see!

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Ilmatar   Sorcery   Mar 27 2005, 07:26 PM
| Kinjo   We actually - actually, it was me who almost about...   Mar 27 2005, 07:40 PM
Ilmatar   Sorcery in Its Simplest Form. Us Sorcerers are th...   Mar 27 2005, 08:19 PM
cosmicbrat   Quoting: “Sorcery has no bounds or limits, except...   Mar 28 2005, 02:01 PM
Zahaqiel   This is interesting - it coincides really well wit...   Mar 28 2005, 02:40 PM
cosmicbrat   How does it have anything to do with "vampir...   Mar 28 2005, 02:55 PM
Zahaqiel   I wrote a little beginner's thing on them over...   Mar 28 2005, 03:52 PM
cosmicbrat   I must have had a slight memory blockage for a mo...   Mar 28 2005, 11:44 PM
Zahaqiel   Idiot psi-vampires tend to do that. It's les...   Mar 29 2005, 08:36 AM
cosmicbrat   ROLE PLAYING WILL NOT BE ALLOWED!!! Th...   Mar 29 2005, 08:52 AM
Zahaqiel   lol... I used "handled" broadly. So far ...   Mar 29 2005, 02:44 PM
cosmicbrat   Are those cosmic entities really a "problem...   Mar 29 2005, 05:27 PM
Zahaqiel   The apparitions are - but they tend to be deterri...   Mar 29 2005, 05:43 PM
cosmicbrat   The apparitions are - but they tend to be deterri...   Mar 29 2005, 10:38 PM
Chalis   Ilmatar's definition, while understandably lim...   Mar 29 2005, 10:51 PM
Zahaqiel   That's a technique you use for any tame anima...   Mar 30 2005, 12:07 AM
lpol99   ive had my energy drain its not that nice got em b...   Jun 30 2006, 02:31 PM
cosmicbrat   Just being in this world, teevee, people, books, p...   Mar 30 2005, 10:26 AM
Zahaqiel   lol - I only trust the other side as far as I can ...   Mar 30 2005, 11:27 AM
Acid09   So is there suppose to be a difference between mag...   Mar 30 2005, 01:21 PM
cosmicbrat   The magics are like you need to get laid, and you ...   Mar 30 2005, 02:01 PM
Athena   LOL interesting metaphor you have chosen to compar...   Mar 30 2005, 05:30 PM
cosmicbrat   With magics, you have stepped along a habitual...   Mar 30 2005, 07:18 PM
Athena   Thank you for that, I enjoyed your explanations :)...   Mar 30 2005, 10:24 PM
cosmicbrat   There are many ways to do things... to get to the ...   Mar 31 2005, 12:07 AM
Marconus   Okay here's my take on it, When you got to ...   Mar 31 2005, 10:46 PM
Chalis   I use 'Glamour' not so much to change my p...   Apr 1 2005, 01:30 AM
Marconus   That was my point, :) Direct Magic is philoso...   Apr 1 2005, 12:39 PM
Zahaqiel   That's what I do. Charms are there to manipu...   Apr 1 2005, 10:24 PM
Marconus   That really depends on what kind of invisibility...   Apr 1 2005, 11:28 PM
cosmicbrat   I'm seeing talk of "invisibility"......   Apr 2 2005, 12:58 PM
Zahaqiel   Marconus, to use a common analogy, it's Dougla...   Apr 2 2005, 11:15 PM
Chalis   I utilise my own form of invisibilty when I walk t...   Apr 3 2005, 06:15 AM
cosmicbrat   Those two invisibility posts relate to "Indig...   Apr 3 2005, 10:01 AM
Marconus   I've always wondered if I was an Indigo Child,...   Apr 3 2005, 03:36 PM
cosmicbrat   I know only two means to determine an Indigo... I...   Apr 3 2005, 06:30 PM
| Kinjo   :offtopic: Probably my English is not that good, ...   Apr 3 2005, 07:10 PM
cosmicbrat   Can't you see the Sorcery in action, in those ...   Apr 3 2005, 07:59 PM
Zahaqiel   CB, if you want to talk indigo - I'm starting ...   Apr 3 2005, 11:07 PM
Chalis   I see Sorcery as an innate ability... Sorry to use...   Apr 4 2005, 04:59 PM
Marconus   That's pretty much how I see Sorcery too Chali...   Apr 4 2005, 06:09 PM
Zahaqiel   Leave Kinjo alone - he was only accusing CB of rol...   Apr 4 2005, 07:48 PM
Marconus   Oh, :huh: I thought it was a blanket accusation...   Apr 4 2005, 10:51 PM
Chalis   At the risk of angering the mods, schmuck also mea...   Apr 5 2005, 05:08 AM
Marconus   Well, I would say that a Sorceror has more of an...   Apr 5 2005, 04:46 PM
bym   Greetings! I am relatively new here and have b...   Apr 7 2005, 08:06 AM
mediocracy   ModSquad - FREEZE NOTICE! :whip: I think it...   Apr 7 2005, 09:21 AM
| Kinjo   I got this on my mailbox sent offlist by member fr...   Apr 8 2005, 03:23 AM
Ilmatar   Hi I am back Sorry for the long absence I was ha...   Apr 20 2005, 08:40 AM
SlowLoris   An interesting question, which I think throws some...   Jun 26 2005, 11:45 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   hmm, if you do not want to send it into the earth...   Jun 27 2005, 01:19 AM
The White Chaos   hmm, if you do not want to send it into the earth...   Apr 25 2006, 04:57 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   I think perhaps one of the most significant diff...   May 19 2006, 11:29 PM
Bb3   I agree alot with what Bym is saying. I would defi...   Jun 27 2005, 03:06 AM
WhiteRaven   eh? what happened to the rest of the topic? did th...   Dec 7 2005, 06:12 PM
bym   Greetings! I don't think that size can nec...   Dec 7 2005, 06:36 PM
Psypocalypse   Here is one of my views on the practice* of sorcer...   Feb 11 2006, 10:41 AM
esoterica   i would add that sorcerers usually have a purpose ...   Feb 11 2006, 12:12 PM
Nyghtfall   Thinking about Sorcery, what do others think on th...   Mar 5 2006, 03:56 AM
bym   Greetings! I've merged your new thread wit...   Mar 5 2006, 07:19 AM
Nyghtfall   Greetings! I've merged your new thread wit...   Mar 5 2006, 10:51 AM
bym   Then you can see by the posts and the posting date...   Mar 5 2006, 04:11 PM
Nyghtfall   Then you can see by the posts and the posting date...   Mar 6 2006, 02:02 PM
Praxis   I must admit - I am intrigued. I am intrigued at ...   Mar 6 2006, 04:18 PM
Psypocalypse   I That thus seriously challenges any Paradigm Arti...   Jul 9 2006, 06:56 AM
Psypocalypse   Therefore I have now undertaken the tedious, but f...   Aug 9 2006, 04:55 PM
bym   IMHO, Sorcery was the term used to classify any ma...   Mar 6 2006, 06:36 PM
Praxis   "Twilight", huh? Well. I only have kno...   Mar 6 2006, 06:54 PM
gl3vector   Pardon my ignorance but socery isn't as much a...   Mar 22 2006, 10:15 PM
Sicksicksicks   I find this thread really interesting. How come th...   Mar 30 2006, 08:18 PM
LordCorpusOpium   Sorccery has no form, as caos magick. Sorccerers m...   Jun 1 2006, 05:21 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Sorccery has no form, as caos magick. Sorccerers m...   Jun 3 2006, 12:32 AM
Ilmatar   Everyone is looking for a definition of sorcery bu...   Sep 3 2006, 10:32 PM

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