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ankhofisis
post Aug 16 2005, 11:33 PM
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93 "Discover your unconditioned will (Thelema) and abide by that law of connection alone."

In the text with 19th key in "Gems from the Equinox" Crowley has two foot notes, one is the Change of LIL (a list is given for this,) and the other is the change of IDOIGO in accordance with the AEtheyr which is being skryed. IDOIGO is the upper left hand name on the air tablet running down on the t. idoigo in the text is actually translated from Enocian to "of him that sitteth on the holy throne."

From Crowley's note this seems to make it a specific name called during scrying of LIL, the first aether at least. this would give 15 other angels using the same formula from the squares. This still leaves 14 names unless some are used for more than one aether.

i have not run into any problems with my traveling using IDOIGO but was wondering if anyone was aware of the source behind this note? of course looking at the elements there are manners with which one can place the other names but no translations for them as i am aware. Is anyone else aware of any papers or information re: this matter? I have put together a few interesting possibilities but the systems keep breaking apart.

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93 "Discover your unconditioned will (Thelema) and abide by that law of original source connection alone." (or, "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law.")

93 "Holding the vibration of the original connected oneness in source (Agape) is the law of connection, by holding the vibration of the original connected oneness in source we embody the unconditioned will." (or, "Love is the law, love under will."

Your soul is identicle to god (Shiva,) perfect this very moment!

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post Aug 25 2005, 11:30 PM
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i have what looks like a possible answer to this one. In the Enochian Magick of John Dee, by James Geoffrey there is a statement that the only word changed in the conjurations is the name of the AEtheyr. Also, in looking up direct running translations of Enochian letter texts there are many possible meanings for same words. And some of the names are untranslatable names which do give the qualities of the deities they represent but are not words per say.

Lets look at the tablet on the center of Dee's table
OIT
RLV
LRL
OOE
these names are not translated but are used none the less.
a possible translation may be

OIT. . .R. . . . . .L . . . . . . . V. L . . . . . . . . . R. . . . . . . .L . . . . . O . . .OE
This is second of the first 2, the first one must have favored your singing

or from bottom to top starting at the lower left hand corner can be translated as-

OLRO. . . OR. . . . . L. . . . . . . I. . E. . . . LV. . . .T
I protect the dark supreme, his times cannot visit

but there is never any indication of either of these or any other possible translations ever being used at all. Therefore, just because IDOIGO is on the upper left hand cross of the air tablet does not make it hold the same context, nor does it make it replaceable.

However, Crowley did receive an amazing amount of information from his scrying when compared to the logs of many others, some of which go not beyond a basic view, or my own experience after a certain AEtheyr, it does seem that there may be a possible key. If the changing of that word is the key it seems all to simple. i believe the "key" to entrance lies elsewhere. Perhaps this lies in authority and true Magickal growth.

We traverse the tree of life from bottom to top and the AEtheyrs from
center to the outermost, like growth rings of the tree of life itself
as it were. Each one proportionally larger than the one before it, making
makes me wonder, if this is the body of the mystical Enochian universe
in the form of a tree, what worlds may exists beyond the outermost
ring of LIL?

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93 "Discover your unconditioned will (Thelema) and abide by that law of original source connection alone." (or, "Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law.")

93 "Holding the vibration of the original connected oneness in source (Agape) is the law of connection, by holding the vibration of the original connected oneness in source we embody the unconditioned will." (or, "Love is the law, love under will."

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