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Enigmius
post Aug 31 2005, 08:57 AM
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I have a really retarded question. As I stated in an earlier post I am new to goetia but not to ceremonial magick. I was wondering how much of the equipment from the Goetia is really essential to get results from this kind of evocation.

I have a circle with the holy names on it. Its not the same form and design as the one from the lesser keys however(its my own design).

I am also making a triangle of art with a skrying mirror on it. So the triangle won't be the floor variety as in the Book.

As for the bass box, sword, and everything else, I don't have them. All I have is standard Golden Dawn equipment(minus the sword).

So do you think all the trappings are essential? Would it not be successful without following it to the "T"?

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post Aug 31 2005, 03:20 PM
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Enigmius, peace!

It would be folly to base your journey into evocation by a petulant attitude. Athena and I (and others here) field questions ad nauseum about evocation and magic(k). I won't even pretend to speak for Athena but oft times these questions are easily answered by the querent themselves by reading through the books/passages in question. Many times we are asked for shortcuts or solutions to rituals that would be apparent if the querent merely bothered to read the material. So often newbies want the answers or end result without putting the time in. Don't skip to the final chapter! You need to study and take the time to learn about these systems in order to achieve your goal of competency with magic.
I trust that you understand the brevity and bluntness of our response to these type of questions. It would be like me asking about the string to use in pendulums...
Take heart! We opt not to spoon feed you but rather to inspire you to read more and really think about what you want and what you've read! Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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Enigmius   Equipment   Aug 31 2005, 08:57 AM
Enigmius   And how tricky are these spirits really anyhow? Or...   Aug 31 2005, 09:25 AM
bym   Greetings Eniqmius! I recommend that you read ...   Aug 31 2005, 11:19 AM
| Kinjo   Theoritically, the grimoire was written for exper...   Aug 31 2005, 11:22 AM
Enigmius   What I also wonder, is in some books they say the ...   Aug 31 2005, 12:09 PM
bym   Ok....... Its going to be one of these Q&A abo...   Aug 31 2005, 12:26 PM
Athena   How many books have you read on the topic? How man...   Aug 31 2005, 02:18 PM
Enigmius   I think you may be jumping the gun there Athena. ...   Aug 31 2005, 02:59 PM
Athena   My apologies for the rude reply. Could you fathom...   Aug 31 2005, 09:40 PM
Enigmius   Well you were right however.. I did answer one of ...   Sep 1 2005, 02:52 PM
chaoscrowley37   One thing to keep in mind is that for many of thes...   Sep 1 2005, 07:32 PM
Enigmius   Thanks, I know it sounds retarded but I didn't...   Sep 2 2005, 09:36 AM
jojo   Thanks, I know it sounds retarded but I didn't...   Oct 3 2006, 05:23 PM
Athena   Half the folks will tell you that you can pract...   Sep 6 2005, 11:26 AM
blasphemy2000   I have a really retarded question. As I stated in ...   Oct 27 2006, 03:39 PM
Imperial Arts   I was wondering how much of the equipment from the...   Dec 19 2006, 12:18 AM
palindroem   Wow I.A. . . . your post presents an impressive pr...   Dec 19 2006, 07:36 AM
Imperial Arts   How did you aquire your lion-skin? Is there any i...   Dec 21 2006, 09:47 PM
Faustopheles   Greetings Imperial Art, Each of the tools has a...   Dec 19 2006, 08:10 PM
Imperial Arts   I want to second Palindroem's request for you ...   Dec 20 2006, 12:33 AM

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