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11 points in a circle, I know of only 7, what are the other 4?

blackstaff	Sep 29 2005, 01:22 PM Post #1
Neophyte Posts: 31 Age: N/A Reputation: none	Ok, a "friend" of mine and I were talking about magic and circles, and he brought up the eleven points in a circle. Now, I'm a solitary, not being benefited with a teacher. All of the points I could think up would be the 4 elements, up, down, and the center, for a total of 7. While I know that there are really 360 points in a circle, that's not in a metaphysical sense. He did say he couldn't say anything else, because he's under oath and a 2nd degree person in paganism. But he did say something about the 4 "normal" points being positively aligned, and the other 4 were negatively aligned. I've never heard anything about this before in really anything I've ever experienced, and I was wondering if anyone had any information on it. Is it a valid practice, these 11 points? Thanks all Blackstaff This post has been edited by blackstaff: Sep 29 2005, 01:24 PM -------------------- Ea Heccatus Somni Carebe

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AVP	Sep 29 2005, 07:04 PM Post #2
Neophyte Posts: 19 Age: N/A Reputation: none	I have worked with one group that used the Quarters, Cross-Quarters, Above, Below, and Spirit... That equals 11... Of course, they weren't looking at the cross quarters as negative aspects of the elements, they were looking at them as the places where the elements blend... sort of like sub-elements. Anyway... there are groups that utilize these 11 points, but I agree with everyone above that this information being restricted by oath is a bunch of hoo-hah. LVX AVP -------------------- www.hedjwer.sacred-magick.com/forum "I won't say the practice can't be dangerous. However, as with anything else that involves risk, it is really a matter of education and experience. For example, electricians aren't dropping dead by the thousands- even though the forces they work with every day are extremely dangerous. Meanwhile, folks who fancy themselves handy with electricty and go playing around with it unawares often get burned badly." -- Quoting Aaron Lecht concerning the grimoires

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blackstaff 11 points in a circle Sep 29 2005, 01:22 PM

DollHouseKitty Well, first of all, claiming to be "under oat... Sep 29 2005, 01:55 PM

blackstaff That's what I was thinking too, that his oath ... Sep 29 2005, 04:12 PM

DollHouseKitty From my experience, their only names. As long as y... Sep 29 2005, 05:53 PM

AVP I have worked with one group that used the Quarter... Sep 29 2005, 07:04 PM

Sorcerer i have to agree with doll house kitty i would put... Nov 17 2005, 04:00 PM

vulnera this likely has nothing to do with the 11 points y... Dec 6 2005, 09:31 PM

Saul de Plume Just for the record, void is another name for spir... Nov 12 2006, 02:39 AM

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