Not How You Imagine, You're already there Options

Okay, I have read the work Robert Bruce, and I have tried enough techniques to get me to 'project' that I could write my own book

Enough is enough. I am here to tell you that there is no leaving the body.

Wait! I am not saying that people don't indeed experience OOBEs or anything of the sort. I am saying that you can't leave your body because you were never in it.


You and I exist on all planes. Our being covers all of infinity, and all that is necessary is that we attune and focus our consciousness to one part of this vast terrain. We are already everywhere we could want to go, and our bodies don't keep us here. In fact, we aren't kept here at all.

If you ask any occultist (seasoned, budding, or otherwise) they would tell you the astral is made of thought. All sorts of though in different fields of vibration that change and shift as we change and shift; this is all occult 101. But what all the books and all this thought fails to portray is what this entails.

Where do you think your consciousness is at? Your brain, your spirit, your mind? You can't find an exact location, can you? This is because it is everywhere! The brain are just a radio and the mind is just the station... consciousness is everywhere like the waves that the radio receives.

If you still haven't got my point yet, hang in there. What I am trying to say is that our consciousness is already on the astral. What we assume to be imagination is actually what the astral is! Have you ever imagined yourself moving, dancing, or getting so anxious inside a thought that you began to notice your body was involuntarily moving to react to it? I know I have.

So sure, you can try to project out of your body, and I am sure that (given time) you will succeed. But there is an easier, more gradual (and more mind-bending) way to go about it. Daydreaming. But not just ordinary run-of-the-mill daydreaming, I am talking very intense visualization and the gradual use of other senses here. And when you do hit that moment where more of your consciousness is attuned to the astral than it is to the physical...it is like you fall directly into the astral. This way, you come to understand the astral as *inside* of you....not as some distant realm. It makes the astral feel like home, like someplace you've been a thousand times before but took for granted.

And if you are wondering about whether or not I am just accessing my own consciousness, I can assure you that this method also brings you into the collective. I found this out when I decided to try pathworking my way through the path to Yesod completely by my own knowlege, only to find out it is perfectly in line with how others perceive it to be.

This method also brings your everyday consciousness lucidity directly to your dreams. Not long after I started using this method, I had my first lucid dream in about a year or so (probably more)...and I had one of the most vivid dreams of my life that very same night.

I'm not trying to say that people like Robert Bruce are wrong, but I am saying that there way isn't the only way. I am just suggesting a different road to the same destination....one that I think might save some people some time.

So work with daydreaming...work with imagined things! Work with them until the lines between real and daydreamed are blurred, and until you find yourself falling into the astral instead of trying to climb up into it.
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You can take it or leave it. This is what I have found to be true for myself, and I am in no way trying to invalidate other's methods and beliefs.

Edit: My pathworking was identical to that of the same path in The Shining Paths, as stated by BrotherM.

hello everyone, interesting discussion here..
I fell upon this site searching for forums to better learn about witchcraft, very nice forum and site by the way..
form my personal experiences I would say that we actually are traveling outside the body, that in reality there are inner layers and outer layers of consciousness..for me and most people they travel within(dreams/ap's)where full blown obe's take shape when we fully detach from the body and take complete control over the subconscious ..I see it as a huge circle,where this reality lay on just outside on the edge of the circle, however there is more to this reality than meets the eye.as we move in through the layers we get closer to where time and space does not exist where all consciousness emerges..
does this make any sense?lol
well I just thought I would throw my philosophy in here!!