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I have asked this under a different topic and forum category/purpose but have not get any answers until now. Hopefully, starting this it's own topic will generate some enlightments (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My questions basically all around fasting, such as why people do it, what is the benefits of it, how do you actually fast and what result do you actually get from fasting?

I know that fasting are supposedly purifies the body, and the mind. But does it awaken certain occult powers/influences?

A local magical system where I lives employs a lot of fasting into their system. Doing a specific working, a fast often are involved. To cast a spell, it is usually "bought" with specific fasting from a whole night fast, 3 days, 7 days etc. Certain "rules" also applied such as white fast where you're only allowed to eat white rice and plain water - up to only a handfull of plain tasteless food and a glass of water. A very popular "Pati geni" fast involves the operator to meditate in a complete darkness for complete 24 hours up to 3 days (some requires more) while single mindedly reciting the mantra/intent of the spell/powers the operator wish to "purchase". The result were said to be immediately can be tested.

Friends and one of my personal staff can confirm this with personal or other people's experience with results such as: complete obedience/submission of the opposite sex up to drive them to insanity/suicide, instantly kill a person, insert physical materials like nails, glass or poisonus animals into the victim's body for prolonged incureable sickness, ability to heal, see the astral, immunity to razors, nails or other sharp weapons, the physical martial art power of 10 horses (for example (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)) the ability to run and fly like the wind, to be physically invisible, and the ability to refuse death (but not old age) until the operator allows death to come (usually when he/she got really tired of the prolonged sickness)...etc etc etc.

These will sound like fairy tales to many western minds, but are supposedly true and exist, every single claim of it, since growing up in this country I have heard these often and witnessed severals of them. I could go on and on with this but that is not the purpose of this topic.

Majorities of the above achieved by difficult fasting/s, meditations and mantra's.

I have several theories in my attempt to answer this such as the direct/indirect use of our subconscious mind, single pointedness of intend over a period of time and use of barbarous words to bypass it to awaken/strengthen our untapped powers. But I'd like very much to hear your thoughts on this please. Anything that could add to our knowledge.

How does - exactly - fasting achieves the operators intend? Has anybody fasted for an intent and got results? etc... anything related to this please


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I just done 21.00pm - 04.30am torture. The fast started from 18.00pm, however beginning at 21.00pm I sat in trance and chanting meditation until about 00.00am where I can't feel my legs and was painful as hell. I got to try to get up and stretch a bit before continuing with the trance chant. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/taz.gif)

At around 01.00am I began to loose fuel, somehow the mantra kept stopping here and there, sometimes I felt lost like I'm having a mind farts which requires me to restart the mantra. Not to mention that I had to change position to so many different asanas for every 15 - 30 minutes since it's killing my legs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wheelchair.gif)

It's noteable that during this almost nonstop marathon, my right side brain (from top to back of the head) starts to feels "heavy" from the result of the chantings, also, a warm energies began to develop from within me.

I meditated infront of my fish pond (with waterfalls) and at times during the chant I withdraw/inhale the water elements and almost immediately feel cold breeze giving me goosebumps.

Even though experienced some mindfarts, LOTS of muscle pains torture during 01.00am - 04.30am, I did manage to single mindedly focus on the chants imbued with my specific intent. It does feels good in the end (that is after I break the fast, had some sandwich, a big glass of orange juice and cigs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)). My mind was clearer and sharper, gained even more vitality.. and hopefully, my intend will come to manifestation - I just got to test result later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/victory.gif)

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Just got news. My attempt was in vain since I broke the fast with standing up and changing positions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/06.gif) I forgot it supposed to be a fasting of the body and senses as well... not only the easy fast of the stomach... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry_pissed_off_emoticon.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gif)

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| Kinjo   The Theory of Fasting   Oct 26 2005, 08:56 AM
DollHouseKitty   To put it is as simply as I can, it's all in t...   Oct 26 2005, 10:32 AM
| Kinjo   Good posting. I also want to add that once one of...   Oct 26 2005, 12:28 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   As dolhouskitty says, it is all in the mind. Fast...   Oct 27 2005, 01:12 PM
| Kinjo   Thanks for your replies :thumsup: I think we g...   Oct 27 2005, 02:54 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   I think the esoteric qualities are described enoug...   Oct 27 2005, 03:44 PM
| Kinjo   Just a thought, not sleeping for 2 days (without f...   Oct 27 2005, 05:25 PM
DollHouseKitty   Hrmmm...I've never had a problem with developi...   Oct 27 2005, 06:12 PM
mediocracy   From what I have read it appears that a period of ...   Oct 28 2005, 12:23 AM
| Kinjo   I am attempting a full and complete 24 hours nonst...   Oct 29 2005, 05:13 AM
DollHouseKitty   That smoking one is cetainly one helluva feat...be...   Oct 29 2005, 03:41 PM
Bb3   I've fasted quite often in the past and am sta...   Oct 29 2005, 06:40 PM
| Kinjo   Well, I have not eat anything up until now...hmm.....   Oct 29 2005, 10:16 PM
| Kinjo   The idea of a true fasting is to conquer all of o...   Oct 29 2005, 10:52 PM
DollHouseKitty   I don't doubt the sheer force of will, not at ...   Oct 29 2005, 11:37 PM
| Kinjo   I'm actually in a no position to suggest anyon...   Oct 30 2005, 01:35 AM
| Kinjo   I did the math on this one. My mantra takes exact...   Oct 30 2005, 02:02 AM
Bb3   I think this depended on individual intent which ...   Oct 30 2005, 03:24 AM
| Kinjo   Yup, fasting is not a thrilling habit... think of ...   Oct 30 2005, 08:47 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   lovely, Did you reach some new height kinjo? Dol...   Oct 31 2005, 03:56 AM
| Kinjo   Only one trial fast so far :p however, I noted I o...   Oct 31 2005, 05:00 AM
Bb3   On the contrary I tend to look at fasting itself...   Oct 31 2005, 03:04 PM
| Kinjo   More info on fasting: Indonesian Shamanic Method o...   Nov 12 2005, 09:42 PM
Bitcouch   Master Choa Kok Sui said that fasting increases yo...   Oct 18 2006, 01:21 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   another way of fasting is deprivation of sleep. Im...   Oct 18 2006, 09:08 AM
Bb3   another way of fasting is deprivation of sleep. Im...   Oct 24 2006, 08:08 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   i should have said that another way. sleep depriva...   Oct 26 2006, 06:14 PM
Bb3   Fasting makes me lightheaded, and weakens my body,...   Oct 27 2006, 11:41 AM
palindroem   The system that is our person occupies a huge amou...   Oct 27 2006, 01:14 PM
Pilgrim Child   Obviously there are many types of fasting, with di...   Nov 1 2006, 09:00 AM
Traveller   Dear members: How do you all concentrate when fast...   Nov 5 2006, 02:27 AM
Pilgrim Child   Well today was my first day of fast: no breakfast ...   Nov 5 2006, 02:25 PM
Traveller   When you begin a no-food fast your body goes into ...   Nov 9 2006, 01:20 PM
Bb3   I think you are right in that I went into detox wi...   Nov 9 2006, 08:08 PM
DarkGoddess   I see fasting a little different than from the mag...   Nov 16 2006, 06:40 PM
old23supreme   I've done a Master Cleanse, which is also know...   Nov 19 2006, 11:27 AM
sithhunter   I've never studied Indonesian techniques Kinjo...   Nov 6 2006, 02:09 AM

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