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Satarel
post Nov 5 2005, 05:06 PM
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I'm beginning to wonder about different mental illnesses.

Night before last I had to look after a friend of mine who hasn't had her schizophrenia medication in over a week because she has nobody to pay for it anymore (moving out of parent's place complications)... and basically, I managed to remove her voices four times (each time they came back a bit angrier than the last, which has got me a little worried), make her forget that she even experienced voices three times (although it was creepy afterwards having the EXACT same conversation three times over, which always wound up with me reminding her about the voices) and banish her most feared apparition once.

Just from that it experience it seemed more like they were... not "medical" in origin. Any thoughts?


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post Nov 8 2005, 08:14 PM
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One could look at these posts and see her mental illness as being used as proof for your belief in spirits. Maybe you need to step back away from this before the situation goes from bad to worse.
This is perhaps true... perhaps not. The fact that she, without knowing it existed, was able to channel my Beast, which then told her things about me that I had not mentioned anywhere near her though tends to suggest otherwise. The fact that the spirits around my room all referred to me as Zahaqiel - a name she doesn't know - also suggests otherwise.

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Zahagiel , I'm sorry that you are worse off than when you started .
That's actually a bad assessment. The vile ones are ok so long as they stay still. The other three seem to have benefits.

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The entities that have left Kitten are to be sent away , why are you holding on to them??
A few reasons.
The murderess is one who moves from person to person, slowly screwing them over and then killing them. She killed two people Kitten knew when they were alive, and from what Karra (the spirit) said during her removal process, she is perfectly willing to target more girls to cause more pain. She tried to enter a friend of mine who was present at the exorcism, and she also threatened to attack my ex-girlfriend. And finally, there's the way I got her out of Kitten - I promised her my dreams. If I go back on that promise...
The other tormentor Kitten had will probably return to Kitten if I let it go.

The other three I don't mind so much, and will probably even find useful. However, those two are probably being absorbed into my Beast anyway. Oh,and they know they're not "needed", but their motivations aren't based on the living's needs.

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The angry spirit you mentioned is of particular interest to me , as it probably was there to help your friend thru anger and not sorrow nor fear .
Possibly, I don't know. By the sounds of it, it was more of an independent spirit who lost most of itself and was only left with its fear and need to cause fear. It certainly wasn't interested in helping anyone.

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If you have removed these spirits from your friend , she should look and feel a lot different .
Yes! She certainly does. She's much happier, and much better off.

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In regards to your friend Kitten , she needs to be protected from further attacks , I'm sure that you are familiar with ways of strengthening her aura. It makes me wonder , how these spirits got a hold of her in the first place , one possible explanation is drugs that deteriorated her natural defences . Just a shot in the dark. Anything that can help to improve her health will be of a great asset to her .
That I may need help with. I can strengthen her aura - but it strengthens EVERYTHING in her. It also doesn't ward her from anything. Think of it as an unguided energy injection.
And by the sounds of it, she was already being plagued by them before the meds. I'm thinking the meds managed to dull her to their attacks, and now she's off them she's more susceptible - so close to what you're thinking.

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I am surprised that their were so many nasties in her aura , their is no point in getting to know them , just send them away , thats the best you can do for your friend and yourself.
Yes and no... She only had two nasties, the rest were ambients from my room - which I find to be surprisingly little since she's a multiple rape victim.
However, I'm not capable of banishing anything permanently on my own. I can only do temporary shoves, if you will. Something more permanent would require aid, or cooperation. Aid I couldn't get - nobody to call on - and cooperation requires getting to know what I'm dealing with.

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Please keep me informed as to how your friend is doing , Im just curious .
Will do - it's certainly very interesting, I'm learning a hell of a lot from it.

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By the way , she needs to find a means to get back on her medication. That will help to calm things down and stop the whole thing from being overwhelming , hobbies are a good way to get her mind away from her problems.
I'm more than aware about the medication. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) As to hobbies - that's a damn good suggestion, thank you.


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The value of the individual is sacrosanct, but actions must be directed in an effort to affect positive change.

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