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 Fakes ?, What's your opinion on the fakes ?
alin
post Sep 1 2006, 03:10 PM
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In my opinion most people ignore or mock the things we discuss here very seriously , but I think we all respect them and investigate them passionately.What bothers are the fakes that insult the issues of magic , meditation and so on just to make a quick profit of those who belive them and the rest of us suffer.
I'm just curios what you think about this ?

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post Sep 2 2006, 01:53 PM
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it doesn't matter, as long as i don't have do deal with them directly.
If i where to bend my mind over every little thing that happens in the world, then i would be going further and further away from the peaceful silent mind that is zen.

Don't worry about it mate, just be happy and live your life the best you can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Sep 3 2006, 03:37 AM
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I'll try and keep that in mind.
But it is hard to be taken seriously when all people know are fakes , thank the Creator for this forum. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hypocrite.gif)

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post Sep 4 2006, 04:12 AM
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it can be a nuicance, i will admit. Those who critisise and ridicule our ways.
But the need to be taken seriously stems from the ego. And since it is for many a goal to weaken the ego, overcome the ego, and strengthen the spirits control over it and the body. It is probably best not to let them touch your touchts and mind with their critisisms.

If they really are in your face about it, try to not to let them know you are into something else. It is not important for others to know you are into the occult and magick.
It is for your own pursuit of enlightenment, knowledge and insight that you should be an occultist. It is not that important what others think about that pursuit.
And if they don't know about it, they can't joke about it.

Trust in yourself and your abilities, and you shall persevere. Those feeble minds would never understand anyway.
Its a honourable road you are walking upon, if "others" give you a hard time over it, try to take comfort in that fact that you are pursuing a noble goal.


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post Sep 4 2006, 05:51 PM
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hay man dont worry bout sceptics the only reason they put it in ur face is because they fear think on galilayo he was ridiculed for saying the earth was round and its the same for us cos we know that the mind can acomlish so much more then wat other people think it can so dont worey bout them if they do get in ur face then see it as a true test of control as this is a key stone of magick and meditation so dont worry bout it. Or just laugh at them as they think there safe in their stupidity i no im rambling but im just putting down wats in my head hope it helps a little if not soz so take care mate

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post Sep 4 2006, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(alex @ Sep 4 2006, 07:51 PM) *
hay man dont worry bout sceptics the only reason they put it in ur face is because they fear think on galilayo he was ridiculed for saying the earth was round and its the same for us cos we know that the mind can acomlish so much more then wat other people think it can so dont worey bout them if they do get in ur face then see it as a true test of control as this is a key stone of magick and meditation so dont worry bout it. Or just laugh at them as they think there safe in their stupidity i no im rambling but im just putting down wats in my head hope it helps a little if not soz so take care mate



I really do not care what people think. I do not discuss my beliefs but if directly asked I always explain that I am pagan. If someone becomes rude with me about it I have no problems slapping someones head around backwards.

As to people exploiting others beliefs I think they are crappy people. Like the jerk holes who offer to cast a money spell for you so that you can be blessed with money. I seriously doubt they even bother with a dopey make money for a stranger spell. And whoever is foolish enough to buy such a thing is giving away exactly what they do not already have.

I believe in karma. I believe that some day a gigantic celestial foot will come out of the sky and squash such exploiters like cockroaches.

Stand up for what you believe in. Let no ones words be offensive to you. Demand respect.

Peace!

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post Sep 5 2006, 05:16 PM
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i actually deal with this situation quite often, as i live in a country with a great cultural diversity. The trick is to have confidence in yourself and your beliefs. I am always brutally honest when speaking to people about what i believe in and even if they do not agree with me they respect my position. As to fakes they are easy to spot and can be handled.

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post Sep 5 2006, 07:23 PM
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I just ignore them lol, then again you can throw their laughible beliefs in their face. What ever rocks your boat.

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post Sep 5 2006, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(Ilmatar @ Sep 5 2006, 07:16 PM) *
i actually deal with this situation quite often, as i live in a country with a great cultural diversity. The trick is to have confidence in yourself and your beliefs. I am always brutally honest when speaking to people about what i believe in and even if they do not agree with me they respect my position. As to fakes they are easy to spot and can be handled.


There are a lot of people out there who don't know the first thing about magick, and may never know anything about magickal experience. However, I have found that even those people manage to say something intelligent once in a while. Remember that the universe speaks through everyone, and while some people might not understand what they're saying, they may still be speaking truth.

My philosophy is to treat everyone like they're completely serious. If you hear something you haven't heard before, you can give it some thought without committing to it. When it comes to experience, all that you'll ever really know is your own, and it is undeniable. No point in harrying people for being fake or serious about magick, ultimately none of it matters to you.

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