First Servitor, questions....?? Options

I created my first servitor about a week or so ago with the tast of being a Watcher. I only gave him this task so it would be something simple for my first attempt, and i had the source come from my energy supply. I gave it an current unlimited date to be around until i felt fit. I wanna know how I can tell if I have correctly done the creation, I haven't to yet tried to speak with him through meditation, but I have seen slight open-eyed visions of him while i glance at windows (somewhat like him on the window looking out to me) I'm not sure if its in my head, or if thats his way of showing me he is here. Also, is it fine to use myself as an energy source for him? (since he is created from my own energy, I thought it would be fine) Finally, is it alright to give it an unlimited time, and just banish it whenever I feel is fine? (as long as I don't keep it around forever)

Well, a bit of divinition will help with that "not knowing" thing. A pendulum can be be great for analysing construction issues; good or bad. Its also a reasonably simply method of communicating with them. (this assumes they were constructed communicative).

Your energy is your business. Just be fore-warned . . . they can be a real drain.

Time limits on the "life" span of a servitor is a good check-and-balance. Its of course, not necassary . . . but....
If this is only an experimental work, then just decide for yourself how long you are going to let it go on. Its not necassary that every servitor has a built-in lifespan time. But every magician should decide on those kinds of things for themselves at least.
Then make sure and follow through, particularly if its one of your first experiements. You commitment to your decisions and "oaths" are an important part of how the universe responds to you.
Though, as a first experiment . . . just me personally, I wouldn't recommend you keep "it" around for too long. Maybe a few days to a week . . . maybe this upcoming full moon. Whatever. Its your critter.

This post has been edited by palindroem: Oct 26 2006, 02:13 PM

Servitors are generally really powerful in the first 2 weeks. I'm not sure why, but since it's taking your personal energy, you should notice that it'll be taking plenty of energy from you, and that it's very easy to see (which is why you see it looking at you). Eventually, they figure out how to moderate their energy usage and get the most out of small amounts of energy. It's as if they're over-eager to do what you ask of them in the beginning but since they're young they don't always get something done right the first time, so they take more juice and try again, etc.

If you're very nice to your servitor and treat it nicely, meaning you say good morning, and good night, and think about it regularly or actively try to communicate with it and tell it to rest in it's home (if it has one) while it doesn't have a task to do, then it shouldn't turn on you. Giving food offerings will also help establish a loving relationship.

I don't really understand why so many mage's try to force their will on servitors and punish them for not doing something, etc. I'm not surprised to read about when they try to kill their master. Simply asking nicely is enough to get a task done quickly and easily. I have 2 that I've taken under my wing as familiars and have not had any problems. They seem to be very loyal and a great help with healing and various tasks I set for them, especially manipulating the weather. I wouldn't regret having to destroy them if I felt they were messing with me or were simply behaving badly, but for now I feel safe with them.

I guess that would bring me to another question then. After already having a servitor created, would I be able to change its task to something else?

I guess that would bring me to another question then. After already having a servitor created, would I be able to change its task to something else?

I am no expert one the subject, but from my own experiences:

If you create a servitor and give it a specific task than it should be destroyed after the said task it done. Instead of having to "reprogram" the energy of the old one, it would be much easier and perhaps more effective to simply create a new one who will not having any "old programing" (ie emotions, ideas, and tasks willed into it by the magickian) effectings its actions.

On the other hand, if your aim is to create a concious spirit who will be able to provide an array of tasks/relationships with the magickian than read the above post made by altpath. If this is the route which you want to go than it will be necessary to devote a good deal of time and work into it.

At any rate, kudos to you on your first servitor! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

Somehow I've got a similar problem. My servitor has completed his task and is now pretty useless. But now I feel connected to it, and don't have the guts to "kill" it...

I felt like that about my first one.

This is just an emotion and is neither helpful to you or it. Withdraw its life gently. It is only going home, ie back to where it came from. You need feel nothing about this. Honestly.

Somehow I've got a similar problem. My servitor has completed his task and is now pretty useless. But now I feel connected to it, and don't have the guts to "kill" it...

Unless you have cultivated it and spent a very large amount of time with it, I really doubt that it has Will and conciousness of its own. In this case, it is just energy with some engineered thoughts and emotions. The key word here is engineered.

Unless you have cultivated it and spent a very large amount of time with it, I really doubt that it has Will and conciousness of its own. In this case, it is just energy with some engineered thoughts and emotions. The key word here is engineered.

His age ? 2 months...
But in this time he made a couple of impressing manifestations to me, what made me feel a deeper connection with it.

I have to agree with the others when they say that it should be re-absorbed if it really doesn't have any more tasks. I feel very attached to mine also, but I have them for whenever I need protection, during rituals and outside of rituals. If you don't find something for it to do, and reprogram it (that can take months), then it should be reabsorbed. A thoughtform wandering around without anything to do can be extremely dangerous. I believe they are the reasons we all hear so many haunted house stories.

My house is haunted, and I suspect it's from very old thoughtforms that were created many years ago before I moved in. I'm still trying to get rid of whatever it is that's in here. So far I've been successful but only after I nearly got my arm cut off by someone that was possesed by that thoughtform.
Think about it.

A few days ago I re-absorbed the servitor, but is there anything imparticular I should have felt? I felt more of a jitter, like I had a glass too many of coffee, would this be correct?

Yes . . . give or take, thats not a particularly unlikely thing to feel. Depending on the type/purpose (and perhaps strength, but thats relative) you might find yourself a bit emotional or attitude imbalanced, but it shouldn't be very extreme. I've had unusual dreams (vivid or semi-lucid) from "informational" thoughforms.
Jittery is reasonable . . . you've just reabsorbed some additional energy that, although is contagion-wise connected to you, has its own "signature" . . . so its a little like absorbing someone elses energy

I agree with palidroem. I think I should add that, in the future, when you make another servitor try to be well practiced in meditation and try your best to put your mind blank before re-absorbing the servitor, so that you can literally get it's life flash before your eyes. You should see and feel some of it's life and see through it's eyes. Eventually, when you're experienced enough with servitors, you'll get very vivid images and sounds. Kind of like in the movie "The butterfly Effect".

A lot of good advice and experiences have been shared on this thread. I agree that servitors with no direction can be dangerous and that they can also be a drain. When I first created one I was busy with college. I made the irresponsible mistake of forgetting about it. It came at me in a rage and sucked a lot of power from me several months later. I felt it's need for energy to stay functional. I fought it to regain control and taught it to draw energy from the natural flow all around us instead of me.

The damn thing evolved.

I have experienced the same thing with my husbands servitor which has evolved from protecting main entrances with basic sword to doing more magickal feats and moving about the entire perminiter. It is one of our protectors which has evolved a will of its own. If it ever wishes to leave it has our permission and we will then create a new one. However, it expresses a sense of kinship with us often so I'm sure it won't leave for a long time.

Um, a lame question, but how do you know your servitor is "dead" ?
(I think I have a problem...)

if it had a material base (like a jar) destroying it in ritual (to declare it's banished from your life) should be sufficient. If you continue to think about it after that ritual, then it won't really die until you can forget about it. As long as you have faith in a deity or you practice regular banishings/invocations, you should be ok. Try visualizing it being forced out of your home when you banish.

I have another question. Would there be difficulty in creating two servitors withing a close time frame, to help with rituals, ect? Or would I have to create one, and wait a while to form another?

if it had a material base (like a jar) destroying it in ritual (to declare it's banished from your life) should be sufficient. If you continue to think about it after that ritual, then it won't really die until you can forget about it. As long as you have faith in a deity or you practice regular banishings/invocations, you should be ok. Try visualizing it being forced out of your home when you banish.

Donnow, but it have the impression that it still tries to contact me, nothin negative though.
The thing that worries me is since it's possible destruction, are my emotions. There is a lot of anger and aggressiveness... Maybe I can use them to make a new baby ?

Donnow, but it have the impression that it still tries to contact me, nothin negative though.
The thing that worries me is since it's possible destruction, are my emotions. There is a lot of anger and aggressiveness... Maybe I can use them to make a new baby ?

Like altpath said, ritual destruction of its material "body" can go a long way in removing its energetic "body", certainly with this as a specific ritual intent . . . (my practice doesn't include generic banishing as a specific method of ending the servitor . . . maybe making me less accessable . . . but not ending it).
But this is certainly the point where specific, even ritual, re-absorbtion of the servitor can help. Not only to you energetically eliminate its energy/spiritual body and in the process give it "someplace" to rest (ie, back into your energy body) . . . but psychologically you substantiate its useful end. Its a basic process of giving closure.
I can imagine that, at least psychologically, even after you intend that your servitor is simply "dead" due to it completing is function or simply from lack of attention . . . the fact that you continue to think about it, continues to give it energy (or creates new thoughtforms that are "similar" to the original servitor).

Reabsorbing completes its useful life-cycle, provides you with a sense of closure and returns the energetic "mass" to it appropriate source.

emotion (anger, joy, sadness . . . ) are natural things. Its your job to balance and equalize these attenuations. But don't split them off from yourself to perform functions and then leave them out there to do as they will . . . this is how personal demons can be formed. Welcome them back to their source, appriciate what they've done for you as a seperate entity and what they can do for you as a reintegrated part of the whole (the All in a microcosmic sense).
You can use them do do anything you want . . . in the real "truth" (I Know Nothing), you are using them anyway . . . split off or reintegrated, appriciated or ignored.

This post has been edited by palindroem: Nov 2 2006, 01:09 PM

Theft, I can only speak for myself.
I could create multiple critters, for multiple purposes or for a concerted effort toward a single intent.
I tend to (for my own lack of mental discipline) create one . . . then a short time (whatever), create others as I "see" how the work is progressing. I find, two's company . . three's a crowd. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
But your work is yours. And you have to judge your need, attention and energy available. Plus . . . you might find that you don't need more after all.

(divinition can help in these kinds of matters too . . . invest time and effort in a pendulum. I've only started this kind of divining in the last year, and its nice to have a simple, straight forward method . . . although a simple I Ching approach (yin/yang or di-gram) can serve too).

This post has been edited by palindroem: Nov 2 2006, 01:19 PM

I don't know much into the topic of divinition, so I suppose that should be the next thing I study on. Are there any good books recommended?

Thx for some very useful info !

Theft . . . there are some threads already on Tarot, so I won't replay any of that (a search will bare it out). I tend to use the Thoth deck these days (with Duquetts book), but thats just now, later is then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For the I Ching . . . I use both Wilhelm/Baynes I Ching and R. L. Wing's books. But I can't honestly tell you if they are the best . . . just the ones I use. (there are some good web sites too). The I Ching is one of those areas though, that can get as deep as one wants . . . its a rabbit hole of Alice proportions, which is great . . . but can get distracting too.

Kinjo has a doc on the pendulum . . . seems as good as any. But, the pend is so simple, it really doesn't take much documentation to use . . . just practice, like any other occult pursuit.